English req for NROTC?

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  1. nomnomnom

    nomnomnom New Member

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    I have been awarded a 4 yr scholarship for nrotc, and I saw that there is a requirement for 1 year's worth of English. Is it possible to fill that requirement with classes that aren't in the English department, but are highly humanities/writing based? Like a history course or a religious studies course on some aspect of the Bible? It seems to me that the lessons learned would be fairly similar. Is this something I could talk to my PNS about? Is it even possible to petition for a course to be counted as an English course?
     
  2. Jcc123

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    Why wouldn't you just take an English course?
     
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  3. Megan'sMom-Okla

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    It seems to me that an English/English Comp type class would be a requirement at most universities as a "core" class?
     
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  4. kinnem

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    The requirements are very specific. It's one year of English Grammar and Composition. You will take these courses or not meet the requirements commission. As someone stated earlier usually there is a core requirement for at least 1 semester of this.
     
  5. NavyNOLA

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    Two English classes. 6 credits. No exceptions.
     
  6. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    Core English is just that.
    No philosophy, no religious studies, no science fiction in the modern age. Just English grammar and comp.

    As a Naval or Marine officer you will be expected to read and write a lot. Therein lies the purpose of establishing core English requirements.

    You can ask your PNS, but do you want to be known in your first year as "that guy" who wants to already bend the rules to his preferences?
    There will be time later to take electives in the humanities. It is recommended that you just "wait for it."
     
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  7. bman

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    You can use an AP English class from high school for one semester's worth of English but will need to take at least one semester at college.
     
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  8. kinnem

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    BTW, English grammar and comp is something that will enrich your communications ability as well as your life. It is useful in all walks of life after the military. I can't stand reading things by someone who hasn't been taught to write properly. And while we're at it, grammar and punctuation are extremely important. "Eat your dinner." is very different from "Eat. You're dinner." And that's why they want you studying this stuff.
     
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    I will ask, why do you not want to take English? You are a 4 year scholarship winner so thinking your SAT or ACT had to be decent and also your GPA, so what is the story? Just curious.
     
  10. nomnomnom

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    Thanks for all this information. Every 18 year old thinks he knows it all. I like to think I'm not so arrogant so I'll take your advice. It's just that I've done both English APs with 5s, and 800s on both reading and writing on the SAT. I know that's not the same, but I'm also doing a fairly humanities based major, so I thought, if I could work it, maybe I could kill two birds with one stone with the English requirement. On a related note, is it possible to use AP credits for the English requirement if your university doesn't give credit for AP English?
     
  11. NavyHoops

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    Just to add to what Kinnem said... As a young officer and even as your progress in your career writing can make or break you. Military writing is a different beast that you will learn, but your writing ability is a direct reflection of you when it comes to fitreps, awards, LORs, op orders, briefs, JAGMANs. You will write a lot and there are tons of reading and writing at career schools such as Command & Staff. I know NROTC tends to be very STEM focused but you can help your Sailors and Marines out a ton by writing decent awards and impress your chain of command by having fitreps that don't have to be sent back 4 times.
     
  12. Dckc88

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    Complete anecdotal comment, and about Army, not Navy. My daughter came out of taking her survey on her application (you know the thing we refer to as the personality test?), and she said, "wow, they sure asked about Writing"! When I asked her what she meant, she said they asked about if she liked to write, if people liked her writing, whether she got good grades in writing, if people asked her to proof their writing.... She said she felt like other than questions about authority, that the biggest subject they asked about was... Writing! It must be of value. And what I learned so far is sometimes they just want you to "check the box", so that might mean taking the class, unfortunately! Look at it this way, given your background it should be an easy A!
     
  13. 5Day

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    You will not be the first person in your battalion to what to know which courses from your school fulfill the NROTC english or other class requirements. If you really need to know before you go to orientation you could email or call your battalion. If you get 6 credit hours for college english courses because of your AP scores, and those courses show on your transcript it is quite possible that you will not need to take english.
     
  14. NavyNOLA

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    Unless your university will accept the AP tests for 6 credits worth of English and put them on your transcript, you're taking English classes in college. These are hard and fast requirements.
     
  15. jiller59

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    How about this:

    Let's eat grandma!

    Let's eat, grandma!

    PUNCTUATION SAVES LIVES!
     
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