Enlisted airmen might fly drones — and manned aircraft

Discussion in 'Academy/Military News' started by sheriff3, May 27, 2015.

  1. sheriff3

    sheriff3 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2013
    Messages:
    999
    Likes Received:
    318
  2. bruno

    bruno Retired Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2008
    Messages:
    3,001
    Likes Received:
    301
    "Enlisted airmen might fly drones — and manned aircraft": my guess is that this will occur in the Air Force immediately after Pigs fly.
    [​IMG]
     
  3. Jcleppe

    Jcleppe Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2010
    Messages:
    5,541
    Likes Received:
    841
    Reading that they have a date set to make a decision and are already anticipating an enlisted training start date......it looks like those Pigs may be warming up their wings.

    Although I agree, it seems like the Officer Corps will fight this one hard.

    I think they would need to go the way of the Army, all enlisted Drone "Operators", (Still have issues calling them pilots) and no officers, that would be the only way to prevent the strain between the two ranks.

    As far as Enlisted in manned aircraft, I don't think there are wings big enough for that pig to fly.
     
  4. MemberLG

    MemberLG Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2011
    Messages:
    2,807
    Likes Received:
    444
    Not a pilot, so hard to see why "flying" should remain exclusive domain of commissioned officers?
     
  5. Boozebin

    Boozebin Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2010
    Messages:
    647
    Likes Received:
    313
    "When you first start, you're probably OK then, but after you've been in the business for 15 years, you're probably not going to be as happy about putting up with that because you're going to know an awful lot about the business — more — than that new commander does and they're making a lot more money."

    I don't get this statement in the article. I know I've been out for a bit now but isn't this true about EVERY career field in the military? Hell I saw a Major lean out of his cube once to tell the new butter bar to shut the hell up when he was trying to tell Chief how to do his job.
     
  6. Pima

    Pima Parent

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2007
    Messages:
    12,804
    Likes Received:
    940
    How is this a shocker to anyone regarding RPAs? The AF is having issues with officer retention in that career field.

    The article does not address how they will fix the pipeline. There are enough of officers via AFROTC waiting months for training, adding enlisted makes it even more clogged.

    The true RPA problem is too many are leaving at a faster rate than they can refill them.
     
  7. nick4060

    nick4060 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2008
    Messages:
    422
    Likes Received:
    15
    Its about time for the AF to start considering enlisted RPA operators. The Army has proven that its not necessary to have a commissioned officer "flying" these aircraft. In fact, its actually hurting us in terms of retention which ultimately will impact our ability to perform the mission effectively.

    Manned aircraft on the other hand is a different story. Unless we bring back warrant officers, you will never see an aircraft commander who isn't commissioned.
     
  8. raimius

    raimius USAFA Alumnus

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    2,237
    Likes Received:
    272
    WO/CWO would make sense, but the AF doesn't do that, for some reason.

    ...the "poor personnel management" bit rings pretty true though. Even in the last year we've seen the AF fire a bunch of pilots, then panic that they don't have enough pilots in different airframes...
     

Share This Page