Enrolling AROTC Second Semester (January)?

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  1. Exar Ganis

    Exar Ganis Member

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    I know that a lot of students transfer to different schools to enroll as an undergad. How does AROTC deal with these kind of issues? I know the scholarship only works with the individual school, so you would probably have to start everything all over again if you wanted to transfer. Do the ROTC PMS cooperate with students who wish to receive a scholarship second semester, or do they generally only give scholarships to rising first time freshman and or prior enlisted. Also, how do the PMS respond to former service academy cadets who decide that the academy isn't the place for them, and they transfer second semester to their respective ROTC program?
     
  2. Pima

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    Exar,

    You have been accepted to WP. Why are you concerned about a mid-yr transfer? You should not walk in saying "I need a back up", you need to mentally get yourself in a place that this is where I will graduate and earn my commission from. If things don't work out, than you will address it then, but looking for the fall backs, IMO, by leaving an escape hatch open, it could e a self-fulfilling prophecy. When you don't have that route, you will fight tooth and nail to succeed.

    That's my opinion, throw it the circular filing cabinet, but many kids right now are waiting on their hands and praying for your opportunity. Take time and enjoy your accomplishment, don't fret about what-ifs and or maybes. Life is too short and you will spend too much of it worrying and not enough time smiling.
     
  3. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    I second the above statement.


    It may seem like a shining city on the hill that you have been waiting for forever, where the cadets are great and everyone walks on water...


    You will be there, and you will realize that many people before you and many more after you will go through that place. It isn't made up of only people more special than you. You will be one of them, and some kid somewhere will look up to you in your goofy grey uniform and depressing campus on the Hudson.

    Be confident man, you can make it through that place if you want to. Tell yourself you're going to make it, don't worry about anything else...in fact, don't worry, enjoy the remaining time in high school, because you will not enjoy your first summer in West Point, NY.
     
  4. bruno

    bruno Retired Staff Member

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    There is something seriously wrong when you are going into Woops already looking for a fall back position. Stud- you need to refer and realign here. If you are not going into the place thinking that this is the culmination of lots of years of sweat and dreams - then you ought to pull pitch and fly on out of the way - because there are kids standing in line who would do anything to be there. So either toss the fall back position approach or get up the intestinal fortitude to tell your parents- or who ever is pushing you to USMA that you don't want to go there. You will be happier and you won't be taking the place of someone who wants to be there.
     
  5. VMINROTChopeful

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    is this because you would have rather gone to VMI than the USMA?
     
  6. executive

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    I think a lot of these people have a point. You should set your heart on it, and continue down that path.
     
  7. Exar Ganis

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    I'm not considering dropping out of USMA at any point, but I want to prepare for the worst. A Scout is prepared right? I don't see myself as an individual who walks on water, and I certainly want to make sure my options remain open. I actually withdrew my ROTC scholarships to give other individuals a chance to receive one, but I'm certainly going to keep in close contact with a couple PMS at least up until the first semester of plebe year. After that, I think I will know for sure if I can manage the rest of the year. Trust me, I won't voluntarily leave USMA, but if the decision is made for me, I need to pull myself together.

    And to answer your question, VMI is a great school, but I never intended on going there when I was picking schools.
     
  8. Pima

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    Glad to read it :)

    This is all moot anyway. You would be applying for spring admission, and even if you decided mid-semester it is highly unlikely that you would be able to transfer the next semester. Go back and look at your college acceptances, you typically will see that your cut-off dates for EA are in Oct. for the following year, thus you would be looking at Fall 09 not Spring 09.
     
  9. Exar Ganis

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    I did apply to a good amount of schools before I heard back from USMA. Once accepted, you don't have to re-apply. Basically, all options are covered so I shouldn't run into any trouble. :thumb:
     
  10. Pima

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    I would check into that. All of the schools that DS was accepted to state you have been accepted for Fall 08. I have never heard of a college that holds the spot forever or even passed the matriculation date. Think about it this way, they accept X amt of students knowing the avg % that will accept, if they held the spot open for everyone, and a large % transferred, classes would be overcrowded and not enough dorms for all of the students. All of the schools that DS applied to require a deposit to hold the spot, which is placed towards tuition if you matriculate, if you don't they still keep it. These deposits are typically in the $hundreds, why? So you won't hold a spot unless you are serious about attending.
     
  11. mom3boys

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    Many of the schools have a minimum number of hours that you must have before you can be a "transfer student." For example, our neighbor's kid resigned from AFA this past fall after classes started. She was not allowed into the state university system as a transfer student. In fact, it was too late for her to start as a freshman for winter semester. She had to enroll at the local community college and build her hours. She must have 30 hours credit before she can transfer to the state college.

    To echo Pima's great advice: read the fine print.
     
  12. Exar Ganis

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    Oh wow. I didn't know that. I thought once you applied to a school, you had the liberty to enroll second semester as opposed to the first if you got accepted. The rationality came from the fact that once you made it in the first time, it wouldn't make sense for you to be denied the second time, unless something bad happened. I'll check into that though. Thanks for bringing it up.
     
  13. Pima

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    Actually, one of the universities that our DS applied to has already announced not only their Fall applicants, but also for Spring 09. So in that situation, you either attend in the Fall or you are SOL. There is no option to say I am going in the Spring instead of the Fall. I am sure you can call and try to change your enrollment date, but you would still be on the hook for the deposit. In this university case the deposit is @300.
     
  14. Exar Ganis

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    Well, I'll do my best there. I hope at the end I will be able to graduate, but I'd better focus on just getting past the first year. My mind seems elsewhere though. Maybe the senioritis is eating me away already :eek:
     
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    Some of the schools here won't even allow deferring the enrollment for a year. UGA and GSU require applying again for the next year. My DS has a backup plan too...I have to pay the deposit at the school just in case he's injured or whatever and cannot begin his plebe year. However, he has to be there mid-August. If something happens in September, he's SOL and will have to enroll at the community college in January. This happened to a young man DS met at his visit in Nov. to WP...he was going home for surgery/recuperation. He will come back this June and go through beast all over again!

    A backup plan is important...just remember the "best laid plans of mice and men..."
     
  16. Exar Ganis

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    Couldn't D try enrolling to that same college for the second semester? Have you looked into that? I thought the whole reason we have semester calenders was to also allow people to enroll without having to go through a whole year for the year to die out. A semester is long enough to begin with. :mad:


    Question: What if one got injured by lets say... a broken leg at the military academies. What happens to them? Are they allowed to go through some sort of remedial training?
     
  17. Pima

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    I don't think you understand the enrollment process. Universities are the same as an SA. They have their class role set up for the Fall. Some universities also have their spring 09 already set up, thus you can't just enroll in the spring. You still need to do the whole application process over again and compete for acceptance against other transfer students.

    Also, if you do injure yourself, and are not medically dq, you just wash back a class year. I remember reading about a cadet who was in a car accident, temporarily paralyzed, and graduated from the academy 1 year later. I think I also read on here or CC that someone's son is home recuperating from a medical situation and will be returning to the SA soon
     

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