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Your opinion has been noted, and your idea of "Chain of Command" is noted, however incorrect in some ways,
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Please explain this - I never stated my "idea" of CoC.

My only point is this - you are attempting to spread gossip. The information you have is incomplete and second hand. (no offense to mwbluebeard).
The OP was simply trying to post a "warning" to all future and current cadets.

In reading through your post - I am somewhat reassurred. However, the OP said the post was not directed at him, personally. Therefore, I am sure the "friends" of this cadet will have seen it and acted accordingly.
I suppose your attentions are good - attempting to step in a take care of the situation, provide good guidance to a future officer - but it did reek of eagerness to put a cadet in his place.
JMO. That is all. I am done....except....

JCollins - May I remind you that neither you nor LITS own this forum, nor did you create the TOS. Therefore, it is completely out of line for you or he to suggest that I have no right to post my opinion on a topic that has plenty to offer.
I would never tell you that since you have a CG Daughter your posts are unwelcome.
For everyone else - don't shoot the messenger here. I neither defended nor condone the behavior of the little twit. Only the OP knows the whole story and therefore none of the rest of us are in a position to judge based on vague second hand information.

mnolan - you are technically correct. however, if the facebook was deleted by the owner it would probably take a court order for anyone except the owner to retrieve it.
Be careful out there.....
 
You certainly did attempt to throw the "Chain of Command" in there, and then questioned if I knew what the "Chain of Command" is. Point being, in this situation, you know absolutely nothing about how things are "done". This kind of thing can happen more than once a month. Believe it or not, it's not always a cadet. The "your a mother" comment is thrown out there to let you know, there are some things YOU should comment on, and somethings YOU should not, and this would be one of those things over YOUR head.

I can't figure you out JAM. All I see is you taking the opposite side of everything. So I will tell you this, you worry about what you need to worry about, but the good order of the Coast Guard is not one of them (unless something being done is very wrong). You have taken on the "my v. the world" approach again, which I just don't know how you arrive at that all the time.

Remember, I made a comment and then you blasted me for it, without apparently understanding much on the subject.

I'm not really interested in what you thought my intent was. I've done this more than once, and rarely to a cadet. If you think holding a cadet accountable is "putting them in their place", then yes, I did that as a cadet, and if need be, will do it as an officer, but in general, that is handled at the Academy because the rest of the fleet has bigger fish to fry. The concept of informing a command about a delinquent member may be foreign to you, but I can assure you, it is not to me, not to my "shipmates". You should take comfort in that fact as a tax paying individual with rights.
 
Everyone.... This thread is about a cadet making a questionable comment on a facebook page. Get back on topic or this thread will be closed.

Have a great Navy day!!
 
Back on topic, when a cadet makes a questionable or offensive comment, they can and often are held accountable. This is done by providing information to those who can "do something about it." Not only SHOULD this happen, but it should happen as soon as possible. It is better to catch the small things than allow that cadets to put increasingly offensive material on the web.

People ARE watching the web, and when something inappropriate happens, the powers that be take action.

MWR, if something was offensive, and you have a problem with it, please PM it to me, with the cadets name, and I can make sure it gets in the right hands. I am not completely clear on the purpose of the original post, but I know I, like many other are interested in the general subject of the message.
 
Just_A_Mom said:
JCollins - May I remind you that neither you nor LITS own this forum, nor did you create the TOS. Therefore, it is completely out of line for you or he to suggest that I have no right to post my opinion on a topic that has plenty to offer.I would never tell you that since you have a CG Daughter your posts are unwelcome.
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I didnt say that either.... I said "JAM please back off LITS... I am not sure what your history is with him, and I really do not care to know, but you continuously treat him with disrespect and I as one find it totally inappropriate".

I didn't say anything about you stating opinions, I never said I started the site or created anything. I was asking you as a fellow member of this forum to back off your personal attacks on LITS.

My DD's future in the CG is irrelevant to this thread. My knowledge of CG policy is limited, I admit but I am sure that will change.. My military knowledge base is from years of experience as a dependent daughter and spouse of the USA, USMC and USAF. Yes as a dependent, and not active duty.

LITS I hope the issue is cleared up and that the offender is found and dealt with appropriately.

Have a great Day!
 
I used to be a moderator on here...for the Coast Guard site. Then an incident ocurred whereby several of the "big shots" on here ganged up on a young girl who while somewhat misguided, was sincere in her thoughts and posts. The bullying was so bad I decided to resign as moderator and stayed away from the site altogether for a time.

Let's not lose sight of why we're on here. We all are supporters of the academies and are trying to steer young people in the right direction. Let's keep the personal agendas out of it. Sorry RetNavy if I'm off topic.:frown:
 
RetNavyHM said:
Everyone.... This thread is about a cadet making a questionable comment on a facebook page.
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It has turned into a thread where a CG JO based at the headquarters command has taken it upon himself, based on heresy, to discipline a cadet. It just ain't right. Just think, if Cadet A does not like Cadet B, Cadet A can contact the young naive JO, fabricate a story, and cause possible damage to Cadet B's career.. The fact that LITS only wanted the name and not the particulars makes it even worse. Nothing against the OP in this thread but what is appropriate is often entirely different for different people.
 
make it go away!

It may be time to make this thread go away...just a thought...
 
pmlutton said:
It may be time to make this thread go away...just a thought...
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I agree...I enjoy the posts from ALL of those involved in this thread....and disagree heartily with some of the statements. However, we all log on willingly, so take what you read with a grain of salt. Ignore if you feel you can't provide constructive input. Hard to do....I am guilty of emotional outbursts at times and afterwards wonder "what the heck was I trying to accomplish with that?"

Have a good day :cool:
 
wilbur5672 said:
It has turned into a thread where a CG JO based at the headquarters command has taken it upon himself, based on heresy, to discipline a cadet. It just ain't right. Just think, if Cadet A does not like Cadet B, Cadet A can contact the young naive JO, fabricate a story, and cause possible damage to Cadet B's career.. The fact that LITS only wanted the name and not the particulars makes it even worse. Nothing against the OP in this thread but what is appropriate is often entirely different for different people.
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It is fairly clear that neither Wilbur, not JAM understand how this exactly works, nor did they read the entire post, including the request for more information and names. More than once the message was requested. Now, I'm not going to defend what I have asked for. Wilbur is the exact kind of person who will cry foul when a cadet's misconduct is not looked into.

Now Wilbur, I'm not quite surprised that you would "take offense". "Naive JO" has nothing to do with it. I, and others, have addressed these problems many times before, not always involving cadets. "Correction" does not mean punishment, and it certainly doesn't mean "ruined career", however those commenting haven't had a career in the military, so that may be unclear.

Now, TN, I'm going to PM you, but I hope that IP addresses are being tracked.
 
A lesson for us all

A lesson for us all is to not ever write anything in electronic form that we would embarrass us in front of our bosses or peers or our loved ones. Everything written out here in cyber land takes on a life of its own. Web bots that index sites, caches on PCs and firewalls all capture web content software that pre fetches content for ease of browsing all collect this information. If someone really wanted to get the cadet in trouble they would have screen captured the comment and sent to directly to the CGA.

We all have thoughts that shouldn't be written down. Sometimes - maybe too much caffeine - or not enough - maybe sugar - or just a bad day - but sometimes we write these things down that we shouldn't. Remember that what you write is forever - even if you believe you have deleted it.
 
vmaguire said:
A lesson for us all is to not ever write anything in electronic form that we would embarrass us in front of our bosses or peers or our loved ones. Everything written out here in cyber land takes on a life of its own. Web bots that index sites, caches on PCs and firewalls all capture web content software that pre fetches content for ease of browsing all collect this information. If someone really wanted to get the cadet in trouble they would have screen captured the comment and sent to directly to the CGA.

We all have thoughts that shouldn't be written down. Sometimes - maybe too much caffeine - or not enough - maybe sugar - or just a bad day - but sometimes we write these things down that we shouldn't. Remember that what you write is forever - even if you believe you have deleted it.
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Well said! :thumb:
 
vmaguire said:
A lesson for us all is to not ever write anything in electronic form that we would embarrass us in front of our bosses or peers or our loved ones. Everything written out here in cyber land takes on a life of its own. Web bots that index sites, caches on PCs and firewalls all capture web content software that pre fetches content for ease of browsing all collect this information. If someone really wanted to get the cadet in trouble they would have screen captured the comment and sent to directly to the CGA.

We all have thoughts that shouldn't be written down. Sometimes - maybe too much caffeine - or not enough - maybe sugar - or just a bad day - but sometimes we write these things down that we shouldn't. Remember that what you write is forever - even if you believe you have deleted it.
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Well said!
 
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