Field Training 2012

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  1. ryguy115

    ryguy115 Member

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    I will be an upcoming sophomore in AFROTC. My freshman year, i commuted 1 1/2 hours every week to lead lab. However, I recently got accepted to that school and will soon be on campus with the detachment. I plan to take part in AAS and possible drill team as well. i have a 3.1 GPA in a non-technical major and plan to ace the next PFA with a 100%. I plan to raise my cGPA to a 3.3. What are my chances of getting to field training if i bust my *** this semester and show my cadre what i am really made of? What else could i do to help get to field training.
     
  2. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    I only have one question...what did the cadre at your Det tell you your chances were? Why would you ask total strangers on a discussion board such a question???
     
  3. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    Actually that was two questions
     
  4. Pima

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    Getting FT is like scholarships, you will go to a board and get a WCS from there they draw the line. Above and you go, below and you don't.

    Right now nobody can tell you your chances because nobody knows if next yr will have more or less slots than this yr. This yr was incredibly competitive. If it was 2 yrs ago, I would say you have a 50-50 shot because the avg gpa for non-techs were 3.2+, this yr it was higher.

    Also realize that some schools have a better history of getting their cadets in than others. For ex: ERAU and VT traditionally beat the % for the national rate, and usually by a lot. I believe this yr VT had over 60-65% compared to under 50% nationally. There was one poster that said their school only had 35%. DS's was the national avg.

    Clarkson is correct talk to your det. They will be honest re:your chances and what to do to improve them. If you feel uncomfortable about approaching the leadership, most dets. have mentors assigned to C100's, go to your mentor. They can speak from their own recent experience and what was in their packet since mentors are usually C300's. Not only that, but they are usually in the cadet chain of command, thus, their perspective is from the whole cadre overview. FCC's have meetings, they write evaluations, they can see who made it this yr, and use them as a comparison. They will not name cadets as in well Cadet Jones was like you or Cadet Smith had this. They will just do generalizations saying the ones who got it compared to those who didn't had X, Y, and Z in their file.

    Have you held any det jobs? Do you know if you will next fall? Any awards?

    This will not only be important for SFT, but also when it comes time for your AFSC since you will go through another board process at that time too.

    If I am correct they now give the AFOQT to 200's instead of 100's. If that is right, spend the time and study for it because that will be a part of your score.

    DS is a non-tech major and he got it, he also got UPT, so as much as it may appear they only give to tech majors they do give to non-techs! It is they just expect non-techs to have a higher gpa.

    Finally, I think you are going to need to choose between AAS and Drill. Believe it or not both are time consuming and there maybe a time (as in when it is held) confliction. This occurs because they hold their meetings after hours. AAS also does, at least our DS's does community service. So it is not only pledging, meetings, but community service that will take up your life on top of ROTC which is on top of academics. If you tried to do both you really could be spreading yourself too thin. What will happen? Something is going to suffer and you need to make sure it is not ROTC or grades.

    Good luck. Do your best and people will notice. They will go to bat for you.

    OBTW, there is an actual formula that they use to determine the WCS. Ask the det., they will tell you. If I recall correctly the biggest % is the commander's input, but I might be confusing that with AFSC. AFSC and SFT boards have different formula's and weights.
     
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  5. ima-gina-tion

    ima-gina-tion USAFA 2015

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    ^we were told only 300s take the AFOQT from now on. They use SAT/ACT scores instead of AFOQT for EAs
     
  6. Pima

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    Makes sense, why give a test to a person who may not be commissioned?

    Let's be honest every penny they can pinch counts, and every cadet who enters as a C100 will not exit as a 2nd Lt. Everyone knows the big drop yrs are after 100 and 200. Expand that across the nation and the pool is greatly reduced.

    Back on topic...get strong grades, PFT and be involved to increase your chances.


    Good luck.
     
  7. grizzlystraight

    grizzlystraight New Member

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    I'm just curious with any thoughts on my chance of getting a slot especially since it will be announced within a month or so. My credentials include a 96.2 on the PFA, GPA is 3.5, Non-tech major, 24 on the ACT, ranked #1 out of about twenty cadets, and i was first sergeant this year along with drill team and i had another job in the detachment.
     
  8. Pima

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    The #1 will help you alot due to how the point system works. The 24 ACT is going to hurt, even with the 3.5 cgpa as a non-tech. The avg ACT for a scholarship recipient is @30.

    This is where the school comes into play. A 3.5 sound great compared to the cadet with a 3.0. However, a 3.0 from Harvard will be seen differently than a 3.5 from Towson University. They are not going to ding the Harvard cadet for the lower cgpa when they are going to an Ivy.

    96 is not great, but it is not horrible either. I would really train hard because if you are not accustomed to Alabama heat and humidity in July it will hurt you. Your rank out of SFT will become a part of your OML for AFSC. PFT will be part of that score.

    Overall, being #1 and the % they give to the CC's ranking I would think you will get a slot.

    As I always state look at LYs stats from your college. Nationally it was a 55% selection rate with a 3.2/3.3 cgpa for non-tech. That being stated for your school it could be 65% with 3.0 or 30% with 3.5. It varies det by det.

    Again, I wouldn't sweat it with the stats you have stated even if it was 30% and a 3.5.
     

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