Field Training and Suppliments

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  1. Legacy275

    Legacy275 New Member

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    Hello all, AS500 here heading down to Maxwell this summer. I had a question about supplements, I do a good amount of lifting and one of the things I take for this is creatine. Obviously I know that I won't be brining this or anything but I have heard some people say that if you are urine tested it can throw up a red flag. No one at my Det seems to know and I can't find a straight answer online, so I figured someone here might know, thanks!
     
  2. NavyHoops

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    It all depends what else is in the supplements. Half the supplements they sell are poorly labeled to be totally honest. I was a basketball player in college and at one point our trainers and medical staff had a ton of creatine and other products tested they bought at common stores such as GNC. Every one of them would of caused us to fail a NCAA drug test. Their drug tests are different than DoD ones but I use it as an example that you need to really research what you are taking. Heck exchanges on base are stocked full of this stuff. Diet, supplements, OTC drugs can a flag drug tests. Recommend when you go to take a test you disclose all OTC items you are taking and any supplements. You get the chance to do this when you sign at your drug tests.
     
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    I am not a doctor, but I wouldn't encourage taking creatine anyways close to attending a training course that will have you spend lots of time in heat and while exerting a lot of work. I'm sure you are aware of the risks, however.

    I second NH, just disclose what you are taking, just as if you were prescribed a medicine (say a painkiller) and were required to do a UA. If it's not illegal to take, you'll be fine.
     
  4. Legacy275

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    Gotcha I did not know that you disclose anything like that. But I was going to come off of it well before leaving as I would not be able to keep up my water intake with sweating and all that.
     
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    Good decision.

    Yea, say you just had surgery and are prescribed pain meds, then find out you have to take a UA. Obviously you're going to fail the UA, but you provide documentation showing you're on X medicine and you'll be fine. Letting them know you're on certain OTC stuff will make it easier to explain if it comes back as a failure.
     
  6. Zero

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    So many people brought supplements and didn't even end up taking them, your too busy and really don't think about it. Honestly you can make it for 20 days without, bring essential vitamins if you must. just my opinion.
     
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    Legacy,

    I am going to change the direction of this conversation for a moment. I don't know how dedicated you are to working out, but I am going to assume that you are very dedicated.

    What is your desired AFSC?

    If it is UPT, than start thinking about the fact that your workout regimen will probably need to change due to time constraints. Daily schedules are starting as early as 6 a.m., fly/Sim/academics until 5-6. Get home eat dinner, study/mission plan/ chair fly for hours. Go to bed, repeat. Monday through Friday, except Friday you knock it off from studying after your day until Sunday afternoon. DS has had Sims once at his airframe school house at 3 a.m., He just showed up last month at his op. Base and had a Sim on Saturday at 6 p.m.

    Raimius has a great blog (his signature line has a link to it). It will give you true insight to what your daily life will be like from IFS through UPT.

    Just saying, that you might want to rethink your training schedule and supplements if rated is your goal because if selected come next year they will send you to WPAFB for your FAA flight physical, and as stated it might create an issue for urine analysis.
    ~ When DS was at UPT he had at least two no notice go pee in a cup test. It is random, you just walk into the squadron that a.m. and they say....go to this address. You get there and they say....test time!

    Not saying give it up, just saying long term your current training may not be complimentary to your life as an ADAF officer.
     
  8. guayb15

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    Not sure if this helps but I was on my creatine cycle while I had my DoD physical/urin test and didn't fail it.
    But like said above, it all depends on the brand, some may have ingredients caused to fail the drug test.
     
  9. Sled

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    I too had some creatine in me when I took my DoDMERB physical. I didn't even think about it and they didn't seem to care. Anyways I think everyone can go 4 weeks without taking supplements. It'll be fine if you don't bring them.
     
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