Finally qualified. What's next?

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  1. mariner116

    mariner116 Member

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    I'm curious about what happens as the AROTC award process ends.

    Does CC send out a formal document with the scholarship offer in May? Or does this happen in the fall?

    After my daughter accepts a scholarship, how does this information get routed back to her college's financial aid office? Do we do that or is that handled by CC or the local ROTC program?
     
  2. goaliedad

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    Just started working on the same set of questions myself, as goaliegirl got her DoDMERB qualification today:thumb:. We are working on a campus scholarship, so YMMV in some areas.

    Here is my progress so far...

    Exchanged email with the Campus ROO. Don't owe them any paperwork until we show up in the fall. She'll take her APFT and upon passing sign the paperwork starting the stipend and payment to the bursar for the scholarship and books.

    Campus ROO said it is Allison's responsibility to report the scholarship to the FA office. I have sent an email to the FA office to ask about the timing (now or when she shows up on campus and signs) to report and how to report. I also asked when the FA would be updated (she just got some loans, work study and some type of waiver). Will let you know what I find out.

    I do know that you are required to report "outside" scholarships, so I just want to keep everything square.

    With a National Scholarship, I would imagne an email to CC will get an answer as to whether they notify FA of the award, but my guess is that they don't keep track of every FA office address, so they probably leave that up to the candidate, as they can decline the scholarship at any time until they arrive and sign.
     
  3. aglages

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    I talked to a rep at the FA Office for the University of Pittsburgh and was told the Air Force would provide a list to them (Bursars office) of all the scholarship awardees before the start of school (before the tuition bill was due). Coincidentally the rep I talked to also said he handled the Army ROTC scholarship students and that it worked exactly the same for both groups....at least at Pitt.
     
  4. cjs

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    We've been told that a large package of paperwork would be coming in June from my son's ROTC unit. Things will need to be filled out and sent back. Some of the items they will need are a copy of his birth certificate and social security card. Also direct deposit info.

    We are required to put the info into his FA records as additional scholarship money, they won't do it. As we are using it for room & board we need to get them receipts showing the dorm charges and food plan. It's basically reimbursement and it may not be until Nov until it's paid. We can request deferments and if he has enough FA they will grant it.
     
  5. RKO123

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    I was quoted the EXACT same thing for Army ROTC at Arizona State.
     
  6. DougBetsy

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    We received a letter from Wake Forest's FA department last week that clearly detailed every component of his AROTC scholarship. Since son was boarded in Dec and accepted to the school in Feb, I don't know what (if anything) the April FA letter can tell the rest of you about the average speed of billing. Nonetheless, I share it as a point of reference.
     
  7. goaliedad

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    OK, folks. I'm going to request some help here in verifying this.

    I just got off the phone with the FA person at UW Eau Claire who deals with ROTC folks. I was asking which components (tuition, books, stipend) would have to be reported and when (now or when pass APFT)?

    He told me that one of the new provisions in this years changes to FA is that effective this year, all ROTC scholarships are considered "military compensation" are thus are no longer reported as outside scholarships for purposes of awarding Financial Aid. I was told that goaliegirl would not be required to report any part of the ROTC Scholarship to the FA office. His office received advisement that this was the case for reporting to the Department of Education, but could not provide a public link to the ruling.

    So for all of you out there, please call your FA offices and ask if you actually need to report the scholarship and whether this is due to changes in ROTC scholarships are viewed.

    I think this could be very good news for everyone here who filed for FA.
     
  8. AROTC Parent

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    ROTC Scholarship as Military Compensation

    Goaliedad-Can't answer the question but will check Pepperdine's FA office. This will be good news if it's not considered when calculating FA. More students will qualify for FA to pay for housing. This is as it should be considering these young adults are paying with Service to our Country.
     
  9. goaliedad

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    Thanks.
     
  10. House06

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    This would be really great news for everyone. Also, as a reminder please check the school ROTC website. For our daughter almost all of the forms are online- makes it easier- but you have to know to check it and meet the deadlines.
     
  11. mariner116

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    I'll check on this tomorrow. Thanks GoalieDad for the insight!
     
  12. goaliedad

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    OK, I've done some more internet research and I think I've found some IFAP (Department of Education) documentation to back up the change to the requirement to report EFA "Estimated Financial Assistance" (a category of outside assistance that includes outside scholarships) to specifically exclude ROTC scholarships.

    Look at the answer to Q4 in the following document:

    http://ifap.ed.gov/eannouncements/081309GuidFedVeteransEdBenefits.html

    If your school's FA officer is unsure about the answer to the ROTC scholarship reporting requirement, please send them this link and see if they have a better understanding.

    I think this is very good news for all of us.
     
  13. AROTC Parent

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    ROTC Scholarship Not part of EFA Yeah!

    Goalie Dad- Great research skills. Thank you from all of us.
     
  14. cjs

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    I just called the number at the bottom of that. They're not quite sure of the answer and it really isn't the number to call for parents.
    However, the person was incredibly helpful and is going to try and get to the the correct information and call me back. If she can get the answer quickly, I'll have it within a few minutes. If not, then by tomorrow at 5 pm.
     
  15. Just_A_Mom

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    Whoa - folks. Hold on a minute.
    In calculating financial aid, this is only good for determining the EFC (estimated family contribution) for FAFSA and determining elgibility for a Pell grant or other government grants.
    If you won't qualify for a Pell Grant it probably won't have any effect on your financial aid.
    If you go to a school that requires the PROFILE and uses "institutional methodology" to determine EFC then it may not have any effect on receiving additional financial aid over and above your scholarship.
    This is especially important to remember if you have a full tuition scholarship.
    Those who are in programs with partical tuition scholarship (AFROTC) may see more of a benefit.
     
  16. goaliedad

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    Thanks! I didn't even think to call them. I figured IFAP was for financial aid professionals and this amateur didn't think they'd deal with a parent.

    Perhaps they will be able to give you a link with the full rule as opposed to the simple question and answer brief I found. There is only so much you can do searching sites.
     
  17. cjs

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    She did inform me that this wasn't a line for parents but I figured what the heck. You can find the page by googling so the number is out there.

    I just got called back. AFter reading the ruling she said that it looks like the ROTC scholarship is excluded. The number she gave me to call for further questions is 800-433-3242 for FSA.
     
  18. goaliedad

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    Yes, JAM, the rules for reporting "scholarships" may be different for CSS Profile schools. Do check with the FA officer.

    In goaligirl's case, we filed FAFSA

    a) not knowing that she would fully qualify for a scholarship
    b) even if she got a scholarship, filed it in order to be eligible for unsubsidized Stafford Loans (in case of emergency) which are awarded to just about anyone regardless of need.

    What we ended up getting was:

    a) Unsubsidized Stafford Loans (expected)
    b) Subsidized Stafford Loans (unexpected but very welcome)
    c) Work-study (she'll be too busy with hockey and ROTC to use)
    d) A waiver of part of the OOS tuition. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

    I realize our EFC may be lower than many, but it looks like we get to keep the waiver and the subsidized loans sure beat the interest on the school fee payment plan. :smile:

    I guess we were lucky. As with everything YMMV.
     
  19. Just_A_Mom

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    Yes, every financial situation is different. She may find that they remove the waiver of part of the OOS tuition since her tuition is fully paid.

    What this means is the dollar value of the scholarship doesn't have to be reported as "income of financial assistance" on the FAFSA for Pell eligibility.
    I just don't want folks to get over excited thinking that financial aid will pick up the room and board tab. In some cases that just won't happen.

    Every student who applies for financial aid is eligible to borrow Stafford loans. The mix of unsubsizied vs subsidized is dependent on need.
    Just as an example - if you do the FAFSA and your EFC is $10,000 and room and board are $9000 - don't expect any thing other than loans. Awarding of merit scholarships or other institutional grants are at the discretion of the admissions and financial aid department.
     
  20. AROTC Parent

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    ROTC Scholarship impact on FA

    JAM-

    As you probably know some Merit Scholarships include the opportunity for increase based on need. Some of the Corporate Sponsored Special Scholarships managed by the National Merit Scholarship Foundation for example. Without the ROTC Scholarship in the numbers DD qualifies to increase the scholarship that can be applied to housing. Every $ counts.

    Thanks for your great posts.
     

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