First Class Base Assignments tomorrow

aggie83 said:
Stealth,

What did the track select numbers look like for your son's class at Laughlin?
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They had 5 U.S. T-38s, 2 International T-38s (Saudi), 17 T-1s, and one helicopter.

Stealth_81
 
Thanks to Stealth, as usual.

DS heading to Del Rio in November, IFS in August! (I thought the Air Force spelled "screening with an "f"" I guess)

Exactly the kind of info I had hoped for.

Now, I wonder how many GPA's are going to take a hit after last night's activities after finding out assignments ...
 
All Notre Dame pilots are headed to Vance. Except my son will be in Texas. Good training base have met some wonderful pilot students from there.
 
Does anybody know about how many from USAFA were sent to Randolph?

Edit: Does anybody happen to have the total breakdowns for each base?

Many thanks.
 
Just curious flyingfuzz why you are curious? I would think they would spread it apart based on availability to get them in as fast as possible. The only base we know 0 will be going to is Whiting. Is it to see the spread, or gauge the class sizes, or something else. I am just curious of the insight to why you are asking, thinking it might be something like pipelines(bases) expanding due to Whiting. For me that is what I wonder about...how will shutting that pipeline(Whiting) impact the other UPT bases? Will they have larger class sizes, will they bring in more IPS to stay on time and size for winging, will casual status be longer, will ROTC wait longer to go ADAF, or for OTS what will happen there?

usafa84, interesting to see they all got Vance, now the question will be are their RNLTD's the same. DS's det had 11 that got UPT, and they were spread across all of the UPT bases, only 1 had an earlier report date, the rest all had the same date. I think she had an earlier date because due to sitting height restrictions, she knew from the get go, that she would not be able to go ejection seat, hence, they could plot her UPT path out easier than others. It might be that although all of them got Vance, they will have many report dates over the months after commissioning. 11 coming in at one time from 1 college would be IMPO and 0.0198645 cents a heck of a lot of them, leaving fewer slots for everyone else in ROTC and OTS. It would be like a Notre Dame college reunion.:shake:
 
I am curious because, even though the time would be light years ahead of me still, I happen to love San Antonio and know a lot of family there. Plus I am naturally curious because I love facts and statistics! :biggrin:
 
As far as I know Randolph now is only for UAVs. The system was re-jigged recently for UPT. UAVs no longer are part of the UPT airframe drop at UPT bases, they enter on day 1 knowing this is their path. In other words you only go there for a UAV, you won't get a KC135 or a 15 out of Randolph, unlike Vance, Sheppard, Columbus and Laughlin. where you know on day 1 you will wing with anything, but UAV.

That being said, it might come back to Whiting being shut down for AF pilots. They may decide to open another squadron for UPT to pick up the amount that Whiting would have winged, or they may just leave it to the other bases to pick up the difference.

JMPO 0.019754 cents, but I would be shocked if they brought UPT back to Randolph over Laughlin. San Antonio would survive with or without Randolph. Del Rio, TX is a po-dunk town that doesn't even have a Target, they would benefit with more students. The cost of housing there is much cheaper than San Antonio. Dollars and cents from a fiscal budget Randolph costs more per yr to train and house students than Del Rio. In that scenario it is a win-win.

Additionally from a training perspective, and jet noise, it is easier for the AF at Laughlin over Randolph.
A. Del Rio residents want them there so they are less likely to beaachh about the noise from jet engines over their homes. Laughlin closes their gates, Del Rio is gone.
B. It is not as congested. Remember they are training fliers in planes, and San Antonio has also commercial airlines in the "pattern". That is on top of residential, commercial, city life. Better to train students without worrying about a 787 in the pattern and acres upon acres of nothing than somewhere a 787 is coming in for approach and all you can see is commercial RE like malls, Wal-Mart, Target, etc or suburban housing developments built on top of each other. Take a look at where FTUs are...they aren't in areas that are over populated like San Antonio. That is FTU, where they have already winged, with hours of flying time under their belt.

There might not seem to be rhyme nor reason for their actions when selecting bases for expansion or closure, but in reality there is a well thought out method to their madness. If you take a moment at look at all of the BRAC closures over the past 20 yrs. for AF bases, it always came down to 3 things...community, cost, and training.
 
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Granted it was a year ago when I was at Randolph training to be an RPA Sensor Operator, there were T-6s constantly flying.
 
Pima, I do not believe the ROTC students know their report dates yet. True about what you said about remote bases. I guess that's why Test Pilot School was at Edwards AFB. Sonic booms were a way of life for us out there. I must say, I am looking forward to my DS only being 2 hours away in Witchita Falls and his friends 2 hours away in Enid. I look forward to hosting plenty of R&R weekends at our house!
 
Pima, I think what you are saying might be true for the future, but it is certainly not the case now. I happen to be near the base visiting family for vacation, and we get T-38s and T-1s flying over no less than a dozen times everyday, with the occasional T-6. Just sayin'. However, is there any definite evidence you have that Randolph would be transitioning to an all RPV presence? I don't doubt your word, as you obviously are more "in the loop than me" but I would simply like to see some verification.
 
Randolph is a training base for instructor pilots. The planes that you see are experienced pilots learning how to be an instructor pilot in the T-1, T-6A, or the T-38C at one of the 4 UPT bases. Randolph is also the site for Introduction to Fighter Fundamentals courses in the T-38C. Randolph is not a UPT base.

Stealth_81
 
Stealth_81 said:
Randolph is a training base for instructor pilots. The planes that you see are experienced pilots learning how to be an instructor pilot in the T-1, T-6A, or the T-38C at one of the 4 UPT bases. Randolph is also the site for Introduction to Fighter Fundamentals courses in the T-38C. Randolph is not a UPT base.

Stealth_81
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That was my second guess, actually. Just never confirmed until now.
 
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