flight 370

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  1. ERAUMattmom

    ERAUMattmom Member

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    Am I the only person out here who believes that the officials need to investigate deeper into what the pilot was doing with the flight simulator that he had at his house. Could it be that it was less for recreational enjoyment and was actually for something more devious than just a hobby??

    Or is it common for commercial pilots to have flight simulators at their homes?

    No flaming please!!
     
  2. Strength and Honor

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    This whole story is sketchy to me. Malaysia and the countries around where the event occurred obviously need to rethink their protocol on tracking commercial jets. I'm just so surprised that in today's world, we don't have a satellite or something that could tell us exactly when and where this plane disappeared to.

    Although I will say, it's been a great distraction from the current situation in the Ukraine.... :rolleyes:
     
  3. cb7893

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    I think Vladimir Putin is saying the same thing as his special forces overrun Crimea and the FSB sets up shop in Eastern Ukraine.
     
  4. ERAUMattmom

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    Hypothetically....I know this sounds like something out of a movie...but just hypothetically.

    In that area of the world.. could have an experienced pilot have flown to prearranged site..... an airstrip on some remote island, having sold it to some rich terrorist or other party. Would a pilot have the ability to disable the electronics that would help identify his location??

    No flaming.....just curious if that is a POSSIBILTY..... not saying that it would be a probability.....

    Just hypothetically... (Could anybody guess that my favorite TV show is THE BLACKLIST?)
     
  5. ERAUMattmom

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    So are we saying that Russia is responsible???
     
  6. Strength and Honor

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    I was thinking more like the US/NATO to distract the public from their inability to control the situation/Russia.
     
  7. ERAUMattmom

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    Definitely NOT siding with Russia on this......But you know as well as I do...that if something like this was happening alongside the US border.....our military would be all over it too....and we would be expecting Russia to keep their nose out of it............ just saying...
     
  8. NorwichDad

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    My guess is the cabin lost pressure at 40,000 feet and basically put everyone into permanent sleep. Plane flew for a few more hours after that.

    These countries struggle to feed their people. They dont worry too much about aircraft in their skies.
     
  9. ERAUMattmom

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    So in your opinion it's more likely to have crashed into the ocean than have landed in Pakistan?
     
  10. NorwichDad

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    Or into a mountain in Pakistan.

    Sidenote: the History Channel has a show tonight about how Ancient aliens, Nostradamus and some guy named Bart predicted this event and many others.

    I am glad I have a network to learn about history
     
  11. ERAUMattmom

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    I LOVE the History Channel even when Moonshiners is on...
     
  12. ERAUMattmom

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    LOL.....CNN just stole my "hypothetical" theory......I hadn't heard a single thing on the news anywhere about the possibility that the plane didn't crash but landed somewhere before I started this thread here.....

    But I guess it's not a laughing matter...
     
  13. raimius

    raimius USAFA Alumnus

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    I wouldn't say it's "common" to have a high class flight sim in your home, but it's not unheard of either. I know a few people who have pretty impressive flight sim or gaming set-ups.
    It's a heck of a lot cheaper than chartering a 777 for fun!

    Listening to some people who have flown over the Pacific, losing contact with ATC isn't uncommon. We are talking about long distances in places that are unlikely to have the latest and greatest equipment. Aviation radios can be finicky sometimes. I've seen aircraft in formation that had trouble talking to each other, and basically wound up relaying information through a ground station several miles away. :confused:
     
  14. ERAUMattmom

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    The report that I read about his simulator was that he built it himself..is that something that would be common among high class simulators?

    I'm not being a smart ***....I really don't know the answer...
     
  15. raimius

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    Yeah, most people who have home simulators piece them together themselves. A lot of times they'll buy components from the same place, but it is generally cheaper to do it yourself. Also, it ends up being a bit more tailored to what they want. You can go buy 10 or 20 small instrument screens, then piece them together to make a T-6 or a 757, depending on what you want.
     
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    So China, Vietnam, India, and Pakistan don't have IADS radars....just starving people.

    OK :rolleyes:
     
  17. mariner-pilot

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    I tend to think that a catastrophic depressurization that left the plane flyable would have led to the plane being no communication to Beijing although the transponder would still be on... and crashing from fuel starvation (or being shot down for not talking) in the holding pattern...

    I fly a small airplane with a decent FMS and decent autopilot, and if an instrument approach is loaded into the FMS with the a/p on it'll fly the entire route and enter a holding pattern without me doing anything...

    I reckon a 777 can do that and more.

    Also, the original search area wasn't way out in the Pacific, it was between Malaysia and Vietnam... a few hundred miles, the fact that they were on radar means the distance wasn't that huge.

    Just my $.02
     
  18. MedB

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    So here's the troubling thing though about de-pressuraztion and other mechanical failure theories...

    Posted from CBS news 3/14 8:41 AM:
    CBS News' Bob Orr reported Thursday that two communication systems on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 were shut down separately in the moments before the flight disappeared from radar on Saturday; a data system and two transponders which relayed information about the jet's speed, altitude and location.

    While a cascading electrical problem could feasibly cause that kind of staged electrical failure, Orr said it's also entirely possible somebody on the plane intentionally turned off the systems. And investigators say there's further evidence suggesting the jet did not crash immediately after being lost on radar; a transmitter on the plane tried for another four hours to ping satellites. That's an indication to analysts that the jet continued to fly for some time -- possibly as far as 2,500 miles from where it was last detected.


    In other words, a multi-system failure that somehow shut down all of the user-accessible tracking/comms devices, one at a time, but somehow left the plane flying for at least another 4 hours and somehow oddly enough manged to not impact the "hidden from view" automatic tracking/comms systems as they continued to function. Anything is possible I suppose, but doesn't sound like the probable answer to me at least.
     
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  19. ERAUMattmom

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    And now CNN is reporting that the officials have been able to track that the plane flew in a zig zag direction following known well traveled flight paths as if in an effort to blend in with other air traffic to keep from standing out.
     
  20. raimius

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    How far over the ocean do they monitor? How accurate are they at max range?
    I don't know, but like I said, hearing people who have flown in the Pacific, they indicated that they regularly have dead areas of radio/radar coverage.

    I don't mess with oceanic procedures. I just deal with a lot of Class B airspace at helicopter altitudes.
     

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