flight 370

scoutpilot said:
So China, Vietnam, India, and Pakistan don't have IADS radars....just starving people.

OK :rolleyes:
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No, I did not say starving but they do struggle to feed and take of their own. The countries you mentioned have more concerns about within than without. Although India/Pakistan may fear each other even more. A lot of China's actions are more played toward an internal audience then abroad. They do often feel they need to create distractions for their own people. These countries you mentioned could care less about tracking an airliner unless they own it.
 
NorwichDad said:
No, I did not say starving but they do struggle to feed and take of their own. The countries you mentioned have more concerns about within than without. Although India/Pakistan may fear each other even more. A lot of China's actions are more played toward an internal audience then abroad. They do often feel they need to create distractions for their own people. These countries you mentioned could care less about tracking an airliner unless they own it.
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You are so wrong I don't know where to begin. I don't think you actually realize what you're saying.
 
Does Iran have this plane?

There seems to be a consensus developing that this flight was hijacked which raises several questions. Why go crash it in the Indian ocean? I don't think it was crashed, or at least not crashed intentionally. I think someone has it or intended to have it. No one has claimed responsibility for hijacking the plane. Why not? What are the hijackers planning on doing with it? Seems to me it would be a good way to attempt to deliver a nuke anonymously which would also explain why no one has claimed credit. Anyway, that's the scenario running through my head at the moment.
 
Which brings us back to the post that started this thread.

Is it possible to get a history of exactly where the pilot was flying his simulator? If he was involved then knowing where he was practicing landing might be a good place to search.
 
ERAUMattmom said:
Which brings us back to the post that started this thread.

Is it possible to get a history of exactly where the pilot was flying his simulator? If he was involved then knowing where he was practicing landing might be a good place to search.
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My guess is that landing the plane on a runway was not exactly what he was practicing if his intentions were bad... Maybe practicing crashing instead?
 
I was figuring maybe a runway in one of those istan countries....Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan.....Iran (istan)....

Going with my crazy way out (watched too muck blacklist) theory that he could have been selling the plane to those two guys with the bad passports...
 
kinnem said:
There seems to be a consensus developing that this flight was hijacked which raises several questions. Why go crash it in the Indian ocean? I don't think it was crashed, or at least not crashed intentionally. I think someone has it or intended to have it. No one has claimed responsibility for hijacking the plane. Why not? What are the hijackers planning on doing with it? Seems to me it would be a good way to attempt to deliver a nuke anonymously which would also explain why no one has claimed credit. Anyway, that's the scenario running through my head at the moment.
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I don't really see Iran hijacking the aircraft. Eventually, people would find out and it would blow up in their face during a time they're trying to get sanctions reduced against their country. Not to mention the many Chinese nationals on the flight that would probably force China to end much of its support for Iran.

Then again, maybe it isn't too far fetched for a country that has threatened to sink U.S. ships...
 
The (not so ) funny thing is that when I started this thread and asked about the simulator I was basing my questions on the one fact that had been released ....that the plane definitely made a left hand turn before reaching Vietnamese air space about the time it "lost all communication" (and I was estimating how far it could travel westward if it had enough fuel to get to Beijing)

...and in my "hypothetical" version...the public had not yet bet informed that the (multiple) transmitter had been turned off...we also weren't aware that the plane's engines were still running at 8:11am ...some 7 hours later.

I know absolutely NOTHING about planes and flying other than how to go online and purchase a ticket....so how can it be that little ole me who knows next to nothing about anything aeronautical can be asking questions 2 days before they are being asked by experts on CNN?

Could it be that somebody on CNN reads my posts? Just Kidding...
 
Maybe I just answered my own question....It's because I know nothing about planes and flying that I ask these questions...anybody with any knowledge probably wouldn't be asking...
 
For the sake of a lively discussion...We can (supposedly) track supersonic ballistic missiles inbound to some American city out of Russia, China or North Korea, but we can't track a huge 777 that has a gargantuan radar profile?

We have a sizable number of ships in the area...all of whom are tracking every thing above and below them within 100+ miles.

I was in the Infantry so this is way outside my skill set, so I'll defer to those of you who served on ships and flew airplanes in our military.

It seems more likely to me that the American, Russian, Chinese and Japanese military know exactly where that plane is...but for some reason doesn't want to say.

Just a thought.
 
Anybody ever read "Lost Horizon" by James Hilton? Written in 1933, it starts off with a hijacking of a plane out of India. The hijackers purposefully crash land near a hidden lamasery high in the Himalayas. Everyone in the lamasery ages much more slowly than the outside world due to a practice of "moderation." The head lama is 300+ years old.

All the crazy speculation of what happened to MH370 made me think of that book.
 
Sledge said:
Anybody ever read "Lost Horizon" by James Hilton? Written in 1933, it starts off with a hijacking of a plane out of India. The hijackers purposefully crash land near a hidden lamasery high in the Himalayas. Everyone in the lamasery ages much more slowly than the outside world due to a practice of "moderation." The head lama is 300+ years old.
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Shangri-La!:thumb:
 
Here's an interesting one:

Apparently the US Navy 7th Fleet was operating in the South China Sea when the plane (MH370) went down. Maybe they saw a large aircraft popping up on radar, didnt have much time, and shot the plane down? Now they are trying to clean up the mess, because Lord knows the US wouldn't want the hammering they'd get from China and Malaysia for shooting down a commercial jet on accident.
 
Maybe the US Navy 7th Fleet was operating in the South China Sea WAS the target... OK now I'm just getting silly...
 
Sledge said:
Anybody ever read "Lost Horizon" by James Hilton? Written in 1933, it starts off with a hijacking of a plane out of India. The hijackers purposefully crash land near a hidden lamasery high in the Himalayas. Everyone in the lamasery ages much more slowly than the outside world due to a practice of "moderation." The head lama is 300+ years old.

All the crazy speculation of what happened to MH370 made me think of that book.
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Never read the book but watched the movie three times. Pretty darn good. If only I could find my way back to Shangri-La!
 
CNN says that US Intelligence reports now point to the pilots.

At this point, I'm taking everything with a grain of salt since they've added about 10 new theories each day. Hopefully, they'll find the plane so relatives can have a sense of closure.
 
educ8 said:
For the sake of a lively discussion...We can (supposedly) track supersonic ballistic missiles inbound to some American city out of Russia, China or North Korea, but we can't track a huge 777 that has a gargantuan radar profile?

We have a sizable number of ships in the area...all of whom are tracking every thing above and below them within 100+ miles.

I was in the Infantry so this is way outside my skill set, so I'll defer to those of you who served on ships and flew airplanes in our military.

It seems more likely to me that the American, Russian, Chinese and Japanese military know exactly where that plane is...but for some reason doesn't want to say.

Just a thought.
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Missile plumes are fairly distinctive VERY hot jets of flame. Tracking airliners generally uses a bit different technology.
 
One thing we can probably assume is that the NSA is/has been running every phone number, known email account, twitter account, facebook account, etc. of the passengers and crew through their matrix.

Would give anything to witness that process.
 
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