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Missile plumes are fairly distinctive VERY hot jets of flame. Tracking airliners generally uses a bit different technology.

Thanks for the clarification. But you are not saying that we CAN'T track such an airplane are you?

Again, from an Infantry Platoon Sergeant's perspective...higher would expect me to have the most likely avenues of approach covered with interlocking fields of fire (and provide them with range cards to prove that it was covered!) with mortar and artillery TRPs. I would also be expected to cover my perimeter for any type of enemy approach, be it infantry, tanks, or even air.

I just think it nearly inconceivable that we would have such a large area of dead space so close to Southwest Asia. And it is equally inconceivable that Russia, China, Australia, India, or Japan wouldn't constantly have eyes on that area.
 
Thanks for the clarification. But you are not saying that we CAN'T track such an airplane are you?

Again, from an Infantry Platoon Sergeant's perspective...higher would expect me to have the most likely avenues of approach covered with interlocking fields of fire (and provide them with range cards to prove that it was covered!) with mortar and artillery TRPs. I would also be expected to cover my perimeter for any type of enemy approach, be it infantry, tanks, or even air.

I just think it nearly inconceivable that we would have such a large area of dead space so close to Southwest Asia. And it is equally inconceivable that Russia, China, Australia, India, or Japan wouldn't constantly have eyes on that area.

No, we cannot. Not in the sense you want to believe.
 
One thing we can probably assume is that the NSA is/has been running every phone number, known email account, twitter account, facebook account, etc. of the passengers and crew through their matrix.

Would give anything to witness that process.

So...it's The Matrix!!!!! I knew it....

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Is it possible that the pilot pulled a DB Cooper? IF the plane suddenly went much lower than a normal flight plan, IF that was over the strip of land in Malaysia as it may have back tracked, could he have exited the aircraft and let it fly on incompasitated? What was on that plane of significant value that could fit into a backpack?
Or
Jungle landing, 300 hostages?
Or
We ( US ) already know what happened but cannot say until the authorities in that area get to it on their own. Or at least it looks like they got to on their own.
 
I'm sure the pilots here will correct me if I'm wrong, but the dive to 23,000 was immediately after the climb to 45,000. So I'm pretty sure he was in a dive caused by a stall and not looking to exit the plane at that point. Seems like he would have been a little busy. But then I only play golf with a bunch of ex-pilots so what the hell do I know?
 
Simply put, with so little known information, it's pretty much all speculation at this point.

Assigning intent without actually knowing what even happened is premature.
It could have been a lot of things, but we really have no idea what it actually was.
 
Is it possible that the pilot pulled a DB Cooper?

Funny you mentioned him. When reading this thread, the first thing I thought of was D. B. Cooper. Maybe he was saving that $200,000 for this, lol.
 
Wow! I had no idea. Obviously, the bad guys know about this soft spot. Maybe we ought to reinforce that...

Wow...

It's not that simple. It's not a soft spot, per se. The problem is that every dingbat with a camera like Anderson Cooper says crap like "why can't we just track the passengers' cell phones with satellites?" Because we can't. That's not how cell phones work. If it was, intel collection in OEF would be much faster, easier, and quieter.

We can certainly track an airplane almost anywhere on earth. The difference is in the problem set. If you know the plane you want to track, where it's going, the signatures it makes, etc., then systems and systems of systems can be leveraged to do that. What we have here is the exact opposite: it's one plane among many similar planes, and we are only looking for it AFTER the fact.

If you watch me toss a needle into a haystack, you'll likely see where it lands and pluck it out within moments. In this case, you've walked up on a haystack and you've been told a needle has gone missing it. And it's no longer shiny and bright. Someone painted it hay-colored (akin to turning off XPDRs, etc.).

Now, why can't you find me that needle quickly? You're smart, dammit. You're strong. You're clever. Where the hell is my needle and why the hell weren't you watching when I threw it? I don't care if it's one of a thousand needles you see every day, and it doesn't belong to you, and there was no reason to expect it would be tossed in a haystack. FIND IT.

That's the state we're in.
 
Scout,

Good analogy. Thanks. It makes more sense now. Do Air Traffic Control systems have warnings for when an aircraft strays outside of the expected flight plan?
 
My favorite goofy theory:


Russia “Puzzled” Over Malaysia Airlines #MH370 “Capture” By US Navy #prayformh370
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A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared by the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) states that Aerospace Defence Forces (VKO) experts remain “puzzled” as to why the United States Navy “captured and then diverted” a Malaysia Airlines civilian aircraft from its intended flight-path to their vast and highly-secretive Indian Ocean base located on the Diego Garcia atoll.
According to this report, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (also marketed as China Southern Airlines flight 748 through a codeshare) was a scheduled passenger flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing, China, when on 8 March this Boeing 777-200ER aircraft “disappeared” in flight with 227 passengers on board from 15 countries, most of whom were Chinese, and 12 crew members.
Interesting to note, this report says, was that Flight 370 was already under GRU “surveillance” after it received a “highly suspicious” cargo load that had been traced to the Indian Ocean nation Republic of Seychelles, and where it had previously been aboard the US-flagged container ship MV Maersk Alabama.
What first aroused GRU suspicions regarding the MV Maersk Alabama, this report continues, was that within 24-hours of off-loading this “highly suspicious” cargo load bound for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the two highly-trained US Navy Seals assigned to protect it, Mark Daniel Kennedy, 43, and Jeffrey Keith Reynolds, 44, were found dead under “suspicious circumstances.”
Both Kennedy and Reynolds, this report says, were employed by the Virginia Beach, Virginia-based maritime security firm The Trident Group which was founded by US Navy Special Operations Personnel (SEAL’s) and Senior US Naval Surface Warfare Officers and has long been known by the GRU to protect vital transfers of both atomic and biological materials throughout the world.
Upon GRU “assests” confirming that this “highly suspicious” cargo was aboard Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 on 8 March, this report notes, Moscow notified China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS) of their concerns and received “assurances” that “all measures” would be taken as to ascertain what was being kept so hidden when this aircraft entered into their airspace.
However, this report says, and as yet for still unknown reasons, the MSS was preparing to divert Flight 370 from its scheduled destination of Beijing to Haikou Meilan International Airport (HAK) located in Hainan Province (aka Hainan Island).
Prior to entering the People Liberation Army (PLA) protected zones of the South China Sea known as the Spratly Islands, this report continues, Flight 370 “significantly deviated” from its flight course and was tracked by VKO satellites and radar flying into the Indian Ocean region and completing its nearly 3,447 kilometer (2,142 miles) flight to Diego Garcia.

Critical to note about Flight 370’s flight deviation, GRU experts in this report say, was that it occurred during the same time period that all of the Spratly Island mobile phone communications operated by China Mobile were being jammed.
China Mobile, it should be noted, extended phone coverage in the Spratly Islands in 2011 so that PLA soldiers stationed on the islands, fishermen, and merchant vessels within the area would be able to use mobile services, and can also provide assistance during storms and sea rescues.
As to how the US Navy was able to divert Flight 370 to its Diego Garcia base, this report says, appears to have been accomplished remotely as this Boeing 777-200ER aircraft is equipped with a fly-by-wire (FBW) system that replaces the conventional manual flight controls of an aircraft with an electronic interface allowing it to be controlled like any drone-type aircraft.
However, this report notes, though this aircraft can be controlled remotely, the same cannot be said of its communication systems which can only be shut down manually; and in the case of Flight 370, its data reporting system was shut down at 1:07 a.m., followed by its transponder (which transmits location and altitude) which was shut down at 1:21 a.m.
What remains “perplexing” about this incident, GRU analysts in this report say, are why the American mainstream media outlets have yet to demand from the Obama regime the radar plots and satellite images of the Indian Ocean and South China Sea regions as the US military covers this entire area from Diego Garcia like no other seas in the world due to its vital shipping and air lanes.

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By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
 
You've got to be kidding me...

That person needs to be writing for "the blacklist"
 
That's some awesome propoganda.
Someone just got a medal... or if it originated in the West, a book deal! :shake:
 
I don't understand why somebody hasn't asked Raymond Reddington.

I am sure that he knows exactly where that plane is, who was responsible and why they did it as well as what bank handled the transfer of funds.

Lizzy...please ask for his help!
 
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