Foundation to USNA

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  1. jimbob

    jimbob Member

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    I have a few questions.

    Typically for a foundation offer is it offered through USNA after you have received your TWE? What is life like at a foundation school? How much money is normally given to sponser a student also?

    Thank you! :smile:
     
  2. tonk002

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    My school serves as a foundation school for USNA. There are two prepsters this year.

    As for the school and what it is like (I go to a new england prep school, and most of them are fairly similar): Prep school is different than public school. I went to public school for 8 years before I went to prep school. I liked them both, for different reasons. Here is some info on prep school.

    The prep school enviorenment is very similar to that of to a liberal arts college. The campus is wide open with lots of buildings, many activities and clubs, and, if you go to school in New England, some wicked sick winters:shake:. Im assuming you would board if you go to a prep school (I commute every day). Boarding life is great. Prep school is a community, and boarding enhances that community feel, while preparing you for college.

    The people you will meet are fantastic. They come from all over the world. One of my best friends is from Kazakhstan. I like public school a lot, but the farthest anyone came from in public school was Florida. Its really cool meeting kids from other parts of the world and getting their perspective on global events.

    Now, the academics are tough. You will really be pushed. I took Algebra 1 in 8th grade at public school, got an A, but decided to repeat it in 9th grade at prep school because I want sure about how hard it would be. It was a challenge, even with repeating. We also write a wicked amount, and it really helps when it comes time to write college essays. It can get stressful at times, especially for the younger kids being away from home as a 13 year old freshman, but it is a good deal in the end. The USNA prepsters like it, from what they have told me.

    ITs tough sometimes at prep school, but it is worth it. I love it here, and it has prepared me so much for life after high school. (also - athletics are top-notch. alot of post-grads come and do a year at NE Prep schools. Its fun to watch basketball games. My school has four alums in the March Madness)

    Good luck. And remember, whatever you do, DONT GO TO DEERFIELD!!:biggrin::shake:
     
  3. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    I believe that the Foundation offer comes in place of the TWE.

    I don't believe students actually receive any money. The Foundation pays the school directly. Your parents are asked to make a contribution as well, based on their ability to pay.

    There are many Foundation schools from which you can choose. Some have a military atmosphere; others don't. I defer to someone who has attended one to discuss what life is like there.
     
  4. NMMI PREP DIRECTOR

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    We are also a Foundation school. Unlike the first reply, we are not like a civilian liberal arts college. Our focus is to develop leaders of character in an academic, physical fitness, and moral environment that replicates those of the service academies. The Foundation students that come here are generally placed into Chemistry, Physics, Calculus, Freshman Composition and other courses. The emphasis is science and math. Please go to our website:

    http://www.nmmi.edu/prep/index.htm for more info.

    The Foundation gives scholarships based on financial need. NMMI will supplement that Foundation scholarship.

    Good luck regardless of where you attend. The Foundation program is an excellent opportunity.
     
  5. jimbob

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    How does the admissions board go about offering you a foundation offer? And why is it considered that a 3Q'd candidate cannot be offered a foundation technically and a kid that is less qualified gets offered the foundation? Are foundations only offered for recruited athletes too!

    Thanks :shake:
     
  6. WKSLP

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    We've asked the same question..If a student is 3 Q'd, wouldnt he/she be a better choice??? We were also told that all applicants are considered?? What is the truth?
     
  7. philparker

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    You are getting foundation mixed up with naps. Many of my fellow classmates (I went to a prep school) that were on navy foundation were not athletes and were 3q'd when applying last year. That being said, some of them were recruited athletes but certainly not all. From what I've heard, naps is mostly recruited athletes and people who were not 3q'd.
     
  8. NMMI PREP DIRECTOR

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    philparker is on target with his reply. A recruited athlete can go to NAPS and play/compete in their sport without losing a year of eligibility at the USNA. If that same athlete went to a civilian prep "college" and played, they would have to "red shirt" a year at the academy according to NCAA rules. I'm not sure how some of the Foundation schools handle this based on their academic rating. I'm told that some of these are seen as "5th-year high schools" and not affected by the NCAA rules.

    NMMI is an accredited, credit-bearing "college". The Foundation students here do not compete in their sport. That said, there are exceptions and workarounds. I've been talking to the golf coach at the USNA about a recruited golfer. We have an 18-hole course on campus and a collegiate golf team. This individual will probably practice with the team and receive "coaching". However, he probably won't travel or compete.
     
  9. WKSLP

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    Makes sense, thank you for the clarification! So as of now, we have not heard anything either way: TWE or BFE, maybe still a slim chance at something?
     
  10. jimbob

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    If you are a foundation student, does that mean you are automatically in? What GPA do you have to hold?
     
  11. CAmom2015

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    My son attends Greystone Prepatory School at Schreiner University, although he is not a foundation sponsored candidate. I have asked this same question this year to the school administration and was told that the foundation students must maintain a B in each class that they take in order to qualify for admission to the academy. They are pretty much guanteed admission as long as they (1) obtain a nomination from their MOC, vice president, or president and (2) receive A's and B's in their classes. The particular academies also tell the school which type of classes they want their foundation students to be taking such as Calculus, physics, English, and history. Hope that helps.
     
  12. MD Dad

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    Is that a B in each class, or an overall B average? I've heard it both ways.
     
  13. NMMI PREP DIRECTOR

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    We have sent Preps to the Admissions board with a "C" (or 2 -depends on the subject) and had them receive their appointment. The overall assessment of the Foundation Prep is based on a holistic approach. Generally speaking if a Foundation Prep is doing what CAmom2015 says, they will get an appointment. The only difference I see (academically speaking) between NMMI and Greystone is that the Preps here take two semesters of Chemistry instead of History. This past year we substituted Physics for History at the request of the Foundation. Our Preps have always taken Chemistry.

    The other difference that I know of is that the Foundation student trades his/her old BGO for Captain Wallace at the Foundation.

    Foundation Preps re-take the CFA, update DoDMERB with a "Statement of Present Health", and need a positive recommendation from the Foundation school.
     
  14. WKSLP

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    Does this previous statement apply for self preps?
     
  15. philparker

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    I am a self prep and I would answer that with a "no." there are no guarantees that if you meet certain requirements for foundation students you will be accepted. The only guarantee for self preps is that there is no guarantee. At prep school I, along with all the other self preps, were told that we needed to work harder than the foundation kids.
     

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