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Ive heard a lot of talk about foundation schools, but what are they? I looked it up, but couldnt find any viable info. Is it a prep school like NAPS or more of an NROTC type of thing?
 
Foundation is an organization with the various academies. They each have there own foundations which they collect money to usually sponsor athletes. Foundation schools are schools with the Service Academy Prep program. New Mexico Military Institute, Marion, Valley Forge, Northwest Prep, and Greystone prep. Its like the service academy Prep schools but if selected for a scholarship you need to pay a portion of the tuition. But NAPS is free. You can apply to the schools and complete the program as a civilian. Alot of the schools have good attrition rates for "civil prepsters".
 
Just a bit of clarification. At least for the Air Force Falcon Foundation, the students selected are generally not recruited athletes. They are applicants in the category of "qualified, no vacancy", usually get the twe before being selected for the Foundation.
 
I couldn't find decriptions of the cadets that received the USAFA foundtion scholarship, but if you check the USNA foundation website all of the cadets are athletes. Also it a foundation college for falcon scholars is wentworth military college.
 
ValleyForge321 said:
I couldn't find decriptions of the cadets that received the USAFA foundtion scholarship, but if you check the USNA foundation website all of the cadets are athletes. Also it a foundation college for falcon scholars is wentworth military college.
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Falcon Foundation doesn't look for recruited athletes. They look for folks that received the TWE but are REALLY REALLY close...and the FF will (working with USAFA/RR) make offers to them.

Take it from someone that got that letter years ago...the logic to ME was simply this: "I can turn down my 4-year FULL RIDE ROTC scholarship with guaranteed UPT slot (they gave those out back then with the scholarship) and go to this PS or...Hmm...let's think about this...this FF is offering me MONEY to go here to get me into USAFA...IF they're willing to spend money on me to go to this place...they must be serious..."

57 folks were at NWPS when I was there and I think all but a couple of us were on either the FF or USNA's equivalent.

And 53 of us received our appointments; most of us received more than one appt.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
ValleyForge321 said:
Foundation is an organization with the various academies. They each have there own foundations which they collect money to usually sponsor athletes. Foundation schools are schools with the Service Academy Prep program. New Mexico Military Institute, Marion, Valley Forge, Northwest Prep, and Greystone prep. Its like the service academy Prep schools but if selected for a scholarship you need to pay a portion of the tuition. But NAPS is free. You can apply to the schools and complete the program as a civilian. Alot of the schools have good attrition rates for "civil prepsters".
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I would love to know where you got your information on this regarding NAPS.
 
The Naval Academy Prep School? I have 3 friends there right now. I applied to the Naval Academy and was considered for NAPS. I would like to see your information that shows you have to pay for NAPS. Thats one of the big differences between NAPS and Foundation. With Foundation you need to pay some of your tuition.

If you need a link:
http://www.usna.com/NAPS/history.html

Check the Program Section.
 
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ValleyForge321 said:
I couldn't find decriptions of the cadets that received the USAFA foundtion scholarship, but if you check the USNA foundation website all of the cadets are athletes. Also it a foundation college for falcon scholars is wentworth military college.
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You are probably seeing the sport they played at their school. Generally those in civil prep are encouraged to play a sport. Doesn't necessarily mean they are recruited athletes. Some recruited athletes do go to Foundation instead of NAPS but this is usually because NAPS doesn't have their sport.
 
ValleyForge321 said:
The Naval Academy Prep School? I have 3 friends there right now. I applied to the Naval Academy and was considered for NAPS. I would like to see your information that shows you have to pay for NAPS. Thats one of the big differences between NAPS and Foundation. With Foundation you need to pay some of your tuition.

If you need a link:
http://www.usna.com/NAPS/history.html

Check the Program Section.
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Daughter attended NAPS. According to the Candidate Packet that she was given is where I got my information. I do know that subsequent classes have also had to pay the same fees.

"As a civilian invitee Midshipman/Cadet Candidate you will be paid approximately $887.35 a month (before taxes); prior service members will keep the pay grade they are assigned and will collect base pay only. Any special pay or allowances will be stopped upon arrival at NAPS.

While at NAPS, you will have three significant bills. First, you will have a one time Battalion Activity Committee Fee (BAC Fund) of $900.00; this is to cover the yearbook, physical fitness gear, various awards, your graduation, and other student activity expenses. NAPS can accept cash, checks and credit cards. The second bill will be approximately $650.00 for your textbooks. It is desired that you pay the BAC Fund on your day of arrival
at NAPS and you will receive a $50 discount if paid in full. However, this bill will be paid by Thanksgiving weekend of the school year through direct withdrawal from your paycheck if necessary. Since textbook costs vary, there will be a textbook fee refund in the fall.

Finally, your initial uniform issue will be approximately $875.00-$1,200.00. Either of the above bills can be paid in full at the start of the school year."
 
Just_A_Mom said:
You are probably seeing the sport they played at their school. Generally those in civil prep are encouraged to play a sport. Doesn't necessarily mean they are recruited athletes. Some recruited athletes do go to Foundation instead of NAPS but this is usually because NAPS doesn't have their sport.
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My son (NAPS '07) was a recruited athlete for crew, which NAPS does not offer. I never have figured out who the Academy sends to Foundation and who gets NAPS -- I do know it's not just recruited athletes who can play/practice @ NAPS who land there.

Valley Forge, be sure you read Navy Clarinet Mom's message carefully. There are fees @ NAPS, but the NAPSters are paid while they're there.
 
That isnt a tution fee. Were you paying for your child to attend NAPS? No.
The fees you listed are fees that look like they will be paid paid back through your pay anyway. Your didnt pay 12000-29000 for her to attend.
 
The foundation scholarships typically don't cover all the tuition at foundation schools. those who attend a post-grad year at a prep school are only eligible for school funded financial aid - not federal financial aid. Plus they must pay room and board and they don't get a pay check. Those who attend a military junior college usually must pay part of their tuition, all their room and board, their books and uniforms and are not able to work and hence, don't get a paycheck.

Those who attend the Academy prep schools - NAPS, USMAPS and AF Prep MAKE money while they attend. I have never heard of a Prep candidate being turned away for lack of funds. They will work with you.
 
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