Friend missed nom deadline

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  1. Academy_Questions

    Academy_Questions Member

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    ANY ADVICE HELP WELCOME ASAP!!!!

    A very good, very qualified friend of mine missed the nomination deadline (as most were nov. 1). will persistance pay off? not take no for an answer? what can he do????
     
  2. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    If he TRULY missed his dates...

    Then that's the end of the line.

    Steve
    USAFA ALO
    USAFA '83
     
  3. Academy_Questions

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    yes they are long past (by about a month)
    he was discouraged from not getting into USNA Summer Seminar and decided not to apply - then recently his BGO called an encouraged him to submit the app. but then there's the nomination problem.

    calling the offices might help? explaining the situation? are there waiting lists for nominations?
     
  4. jennyp

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    If you live in a district where there are not as many applicants as there are spots, well, maybe, just maybe he could secure a spot. If I were the MOC or Senator and even if I had spots, I would not give this individual a nomination. In my mind, making the deadlines is the first "qualification round" in a very tough and competitive game. Sort of the first sift, if you will.

    But, think of this. Even if he manages to get his name on a slate, thousands of candidates did make the deadlines.....one who totally missed it is going to find it difficult to be competitive.

    There's always next year.
     
  5. NavIss58

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    ...and talk to his BGO about how all this might work now that deadlines are past. Maybe he knows something we don't.:rolleyes:
     
  6. Subdude

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    I kind of disagree with this. USNA application deadlines are not yet missed. Most MOC nomination slates are not yet named. Theoretically, the only ones who should know that he missed the nomination competetion deadlines will be the MOC nomination teams. If competetion in his district is light, then he might be able to secure a nom....but of course just because you get on a nom slate doesn't mean you will get an Appointment, and if the slate is ranked, you can count on your friend being at the absolute bottom of the list.
     
  7. Just_A_Mom

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    If your friend wants to attend the Naval Academy he should continue to work with his BGO and finish his application.
    If he fails to secure a nomination the academy always has the option of offering him a Foundation scholarship or NAPS. But he needs to finish the application.
     
  8. vampsoul

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    Have a friend with similar predicament, only he missed the deadline, because his councilor told him he had sent out his LOR, only he didn't. He found out AFTER the deadline that his letters had not been sent. He plans to reapply next year if nothing can be done.
     
  9. Academy_Questions

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    thanks for the info everyone. he's making some calls asking for some help.

    and I understand/agree what you are saying about missing deadlines - but I don't think that is enough to sum up whether someone would make a good cadet and future naval officer or not. Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions.
     
  10. jscam87

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    There are almost no rules for the MOC selection process. They self impose several outlines to be fair and to simplify and standardize the process. Nobody will get in trouble if the MOC goes outside their own self imposed schedule. There are plenty of Academy stories about coming from behind and succeeding after being told 'no' in many circumstances. That being said, it is unlikely. Although unlikely, anything is possible. If he/she DOESN'T try, I am sure there will be no MOC Nomination.
    Good Luck
     
  11. jennyp

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    It is always true that one will not ever get something that they don't apply for. I am not saying that the person who missed the deadline should not try all avenues to secure a nomination. IMHO, I would not consider a candidate who missed a deadline.............

    I co-chair a national scholarship that is usually 6-8,000 bucks. The first "cut" is the deadline. The second is having all parts of the application together and in the order requested.

    I realize that probably not even half of the MOC's are done naming their slates. And that some will not have ten applicants to name to their slate.

    I do have to say that on some level I do not think it is not fair that in MOC districts where there are many applicants, a kid who misses the deadline is flat out of luck. While a kid in a less populated district who misses the deadline still has a shot. Call me old fashioned, hard core, whatever, in my book a deadline is a deadline.

    No, I don't think that because someone misses (really misses, a month!!) a deadline for a nomination means that individual would not make a fine naval officer. I think it means they missed a damned important deadline and must deal with the consequences.

    And if they want it bad enough, next year they will not make such a crucial error. And earn their chance to become a fine naval officer.
     
  12. jennyp

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    By the way, JAM's advice is good. There's always NAPS and Foundation which are available without nominations.
     
  13. armybratkl

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    He could also compete for the vice-presidential nomination or get in off of the Supe's list.
     
  14. 11BRAVO

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    That's a shame but if exceptions were made for late applicants it would not be fair to all of those who busted their humps to get the forms submitted.
     
  15. HeyClaire

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    No he can't - The deadline for the Vice Presential nomination was October 31st.



    Nothing against your friend but this doesn't seem to be a good enough reason to have anyone "go to bat" for your friend for missing the nomination deadlines. He should have done enough research to understand that most candidates who are given appointments to USNA do not get accepted into NASS. In every forum relating to the Naval Academy, people have posted some wonderful advice encouraging students to not become discouraged and to still apply to USNA regardles of the fact that they were not accepted into the summer seminar.


    I agree with jennyp.
     
  16. Academy_Questions

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    i fully understand the idea of the importance of a deadline. With nominations to USNA, USMA, and USAFA and LOA's to USMA and USAFA - trust me I get it! (I was one of those completed everything by August over the summer)

    thanks for your 2 cents, but to be honest whether or not you think he DESERVES it, isn't my concern, or my decision. I was just seeking out people who have a good understanding of the process and might give some insight

    it looks like our MOC has a waiting list for nom slots that candidates give up - so he's competing for that. which I think is fair. he's not bumping someone, but competing on the waitlist. If all things are equal, I can see the deadline miss counting against him, but hey, its a meritocracy.

    Also, he hasn't missed any USNA deadline, so on that part the academy shouldn't care. Plus, it was our BGO that called him and encouraged him to apply even w/ missing the nom deadline
     
  17. Berkeley0719

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    Just curious - If your friend is interested in applying, why isn't he the one who is "seeking out" these answers??
     
  18. Academy_Questions

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    He is, he's been calling all over and working very hard.
    since I was already on here, I thought I'd lend a hand. my friends are important to me
     
  19. Just_A_Mom

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    Earning an appointment is between the candidate and Academy admissions. It really isn't up to anyone posting on these forums to pass on their own opinions about what is "fair" and "unfair" to candidates. Each year there are a few "late-comers" to the game.
    armybratkl is correct - there is the possibility of a Supe Nom.
    This candidate should continue to follow his BGO's advice. Whether or not he will be successful in his quest for admissions is up to the Academy.
     
  20. HeyClaire

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    This forum is a mixture of "fact-based" and "opinion-based" posts. People can post their own opinions if they so choose. It is up to each person to take what they want from each post and toss out what they don't want.

    If someone thinks that a certain situation is "unfair" to candidates, they can say as such. That is their opinion and they have a right to it. If you choose to ask questions on these forums, do so with the understanding that you will get fact and opinion - just don't reprimand those who choose to give their opinion.
     

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