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  1. futuresolider2012

    futuresolider2012 Member

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    I talked to the commander at my detachment today. I was asking about field training and such. I'm a sophomore so I was just asking around. He said out of the 20 that wanted to go, 12 went to field training. He said of course, engineering, computer, etc will go first. But there's a high demand of nurses in the AF. He said the nurses already had a 90% chance of going. He said as long as I do well on my PT test and have a good GPA, I'll definitely be going.

    Question, when they say things like this .. is it true or are they telling you what they need to get you in?
     
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    I'm not following your question. But, I don't ever hear of cadre telling cadets anything other than what they actually believe to be true. No head games... no time for it.
     
  3. Pima

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    I agree with dunninla, they will not blow smoke up your arse because they know in the ADAF nobody will blow smoke either. If anything they are more likely to be conservative.

    That being said you missed the big number which illustrates my point. 12 attending out of 20 is a 60% rate, not a sure thing by any standards, it just happens to be in your field (nursing) that nursing was as close to a sure thing as they could get last yr.
     
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    The enlisted recruiter may tell you what you want to hear but the ROTC Commander is going to tell you like it is. He has no interest in "recruiting" kids he is going to have to cut.
     
  5. aglages

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    If you are a sophomore.....aren't you already "in" AFROTC?
     
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    right... that's the part of his post I didn't understand.
     
  7. Pima

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    Agagles, he is in AFROTC, he probably should have said rising C200, but than again maybe he is entering AFROTC as a sophomore, thus wondering. I would agree any C100 now rising to C200 would not have needed to ask since they would have been in the unit and saw for their self that nursing and engineers get bonus points compared to non-tech students regarding SFT, but we all know that AFROTC accepts sophomores into the program at college and sends them to SFT.

    One thing for future AFROTC cadets, i.e. 2017+, is to remember that eventually critically undermanned areas are filled, and what was the yr before may not be what will be for your yr.

    It is a supply and demand issue. This is what people mean when they say the "pipeline".

    I am not saying this will occur in the near future for nursing, I am saying don't assume it will remain the same in the future.

    As an example:

    In 2010, engineering majors were not undermanned, and many got rated assignments. 2013, and now it is a different story, they are going into non-rated engineering fields. Still have a higher rate than non-tech for SFT, but their AFSC changed from yes you can go rated, to no way you are going rated.

    The point is it can change that fast from critical to non-critical. Do the math, you apply get it 2013, SFT would be 2015, 90% could have been for 2012, nobody, absolutely nobody here can tell you what the % will be for SFT 13,14, and 15. Not even the CoC. Heck, not even AFROTC HQ can tell you at this moment what the numbers will be for next yr., let alone 2 or 3 yrs from now for SFT because a lot has to do with the AD pipeline.

    All you have control over is giving your best each and everyday.

    OBTW the key words was PFT and gpa...did you ask him the important question, since obviously 100% did not go? What is the score for doing well on the PFT and what is a good gpa?

    A good gpa at your school might be 3.4, and a good gpa at another might be 3.2.

    I am not trying to be hard. I am trying to illustrate that the further you get in the system the more you realize how the system works, and that means asking specific, unique questions, not broad based questions.
     
  8. futuresolider2012

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    I'm not in ROTC yet. I start in the fall as a sophomore. All the info is appreciated.
     

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