Gov. Shutdown

Rideon400 said:
You need to inform your Congressman that every graduate of the USMMA is commissioned as an Officer in the U.S. Armed Forces and has a service obligation to serve in the military for five years active duty or eight years in the reserves.
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You might want to double check that info.
 
bugsy said:
Pay the military bill didn't exclude reserves. We have a reserve UTA weekend going on at my AF base this weekend. Under Total force integration congress mandated the merging of many active duty and reserve operations.

The question of who pays them while on sea duty doesn't matter. The school produces a commissioned officer. Better question would be are ROTC programs and other commissioning programs open during this slowdown.

I have a feeling that if the coast guard academy where still under the transportation dept we wouldn't be dealing with closure of Usmma because both would have been funded.
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NG soldiers that reported for drill were not paid.

ROTC is continuing though they are not receiving their monthly stipends starting Oct. 15th until the shutdown ends. Some programs in ROTC have been cancelled or postponed but classes are still going on. Funding for ROTC comes from the DoD.
 
Jcleppe"
You might want to double check that info. "
Check what?

USMMA graduates have a minimum of 8 years naval reserve and 5 years in the US Maritime Industry Service? Am I missing something here?

Any USMMA graduate who goes active duty, will only have a five year commitment, the same as the other service academies graduates.
 
NYBEAR said:
Jcleppe"
You might want to double check that info. "
Check what?

USMMA graduates have a minimum of 8 years naval reserve and 5 years in the US Maritime Industry Service? Am I missing something here?

Any USMMA graduate who goes active duty, will only have a five year commitment, the same as the other service academies graduates.
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You and I both know that the original post wanted it to seem like there was a 5 year active duty commitment and USMMA is a military academy (which it is not).

I don't think USMMA should be shut down right now, but if there's going to be an argument about why it shouldn't be, "our students are active members of the military with an AD commitment" or "this is a military school" should not be arguments among them. There are good reasons to keep it open. That should be the focus.
 
NYBEAR said:
Jcleppe"
You might want to double check that info. "
Check what?

USMMA graduates have a minimum of 8 years naval reserve and 5 years in the US Maritime Industry Service? Am I missing something here?

Any USMMA graduate who goes active duty, will only have a five year commitment, the same as the other service academies graduates.
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Not all King Point graduate who go on active duty incur a 5 year service obligation. Some incur more some incur less, it's all dependent upon branch and occupation. The reserve commitment is 5 years active and three inactive reserve. However the must maintain their commission for 6 years.
 
Eight years is surprising. I didn't realize it was that much. I'm surprised no one has said "NAVY" Reserve.
 
LineInTheSand said:
Where is Rideon400 service obligation info coming from? It's wrong.
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No, it is not wrong, it is correct. I sited my source. In addition to what I already sited you can refer to MARAD and the USMMA.

What exactly do you believe is incorrect? What is your understanding of the Service Obligation? What is the source of your information?
 
Rideon400 said:
No, it is not wrong, it is correct. I sited my source. In addition to what I already sited you can refer to MARAD and the USMMA.

What exactly do you believe is incorrect? What is your understanding of the Service Obligation? What is the source of your information?
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There is no blanket active duty service obligation for USMMA grads. I'm sorry, you are wrong. :rolleyes:
 
LineInTheSand said:
There is no blanket active duty service obligation for USMMA grads. I'm sorry, you are wrong. :rolleyes:
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You are incorrect. I never said or implied there was a blanket active duty service obligation.

Let me quote myself from earlier:

"...every GRADUATE of the USMMA is commissioned as an Officer in the U.S. Armed Forces and has a service obligation to serve in the military for five years active duty ****OR*** eight years in the reserves."

So again, the statement I made is correct.
 
Rideon400 said:
You are incorrect. I never said or implied there was a blanket active duty service obligation.

Let me quote myself from earlier:

"...every GRADUATE of the USMMA is commissioned as an Officer in the U.S. Armed Forces and has a service obligation to serve in the military for five years active duty ****OR*** eight years in the reserves."

So again, the statement I made is correct.
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When there's an option, I hardly call it "obligation" but maybe that's just me....
 
Rideon400 said:
You are incorrect. I never said or implied there was a blanket active duty service obligation.

Let me quote myself from earlier:

"...every GRADUATE of the USMMA is commissioned as an Officer in the U.S. Armed Forces and has a service obligation to serve in the military for five years active duty ****OR*** eight years in the reserves."

So again, the statement I made is correct.
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VII. SERVICE AS A COMMISSIONED OFFICER IN
THE RESERVES OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE
UNITED STATES:

Graduates, not enlisted in the
Armed Forces of the United
States, are required to apply for and accept, if tendered, an
appointment as a commissioned officer in the reserves of
the U.S. armed forces for at least six (6) years following the
date of graduation. Graduates can serve in the U.S. Naval
Reserve, the U.S. Coast Guard Reserve, or any other
reserve unit of an armed force of the United States.
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Chances

Tanker Capt and NY Bear. What do you think are the chances of opening KP without an ending to this shutdown?

Any traction on this correction bill
 
bugsy said:
Tanker Capt and NY Bear. What do you think are the chances of opening KP without an ending to this shutdown?

Any traction on this correction bill
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Honestly this bill is low on the priority list, look at how many co sponsors the bill has attached. We can call our congressman all we want, but the US government does not care about the US Merchant Marine. Maritime policy in the US is nonexistent and I expect KP not to reopen until the budget impasse is solved. I expect the midshipman to lose part if their winter and spring break.
 
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