Honor Code Not Working?

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Applicant2016

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As a parent, I am deeply troubled by the recent expulsion this month (January, 2012) of (14) USCGA Cadets after a lengthy drug investigation.

Can anyone provide insight why after a similar problem in (August, 2009) where (9) cadets were dismissed at USCGA this is still a major problem?

Should I be concerned about the Code of Conduct not detecting these issues and/or individuals earlier at USCGA?

I feel that this is a major disappointment and failure at many levels.
 
I think the fact that they were caught means that the system is working. No matter what institution you look at there are going to be some idiots that get in the door. You can only hope that they are caught before their 4 years is up. The other Academies have had similar issues and civilian colleges don't even compare when it comes to enforcement of things like drug use. I think the best litmus test is to see how the end product is performing and based on how the CG has performed in recent history the product the Academy is putting out is pretty high caliber.
 
Can someone elaborate on this story for me? Or provide a link? I have not heard of this before regarding the CGA. I'm glad that the Honor Code is effective and successful.
 
Applicant2016 said:
As a parent, I am deeply troubled by the recent expulsion this month (January, 2012) of (14) USCGA Cadets after a lengthy drug investigation.

Can anyone provide insight why after a similar problem in (August, 2009) where (9) cadets were dismissed at USCGA this is still a major problem?

Should I be concerned about the Code of Conduct not detecting these issues and/or individuals earlier at USCGA?

I feel that this is a major disappointment and failure at many levels.
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This would be a conduct offense, not an honor offense.


On top of that, CGA uses an honor concept, not code. Minor differences, but the first fact you need to understand... just because something is bad.... doesn't make it "honor".
 
http://www.theday.com/article/20120110/NWS09/301109912

There's the link to the story. 14 bad eggs gone and the rest of the Academy is thankful for that.

As far as the honor code goes, Chase Hall has been swept by drug dogs and nothing was found. The remaining 1020 cadets have nothing to do with it. Less than 1.5% isn't quite a system-wide breakdown. If you are concerned about drug use, I'd be more worried about your high school.
 
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Applicant2016 said:
As a parent, I am deeply troubled by the recent expulsion this month (January, 2012) of (14) USCGA Cadets after a lengthy drug investigation.

Can anyone provide insight why after a similar problem in (August, 2009) where (9) cadets were dismissed at USCGA this is still a major problem?

Should I be concerned about the Code of Conduct not detecting these issues and/or individuals earlier at USCGA?

I feel that this is a major disappointment and failure at many levels.
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Hi Applicant2016,

Responsibility always begins at the top level.
 
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As has previously been mentioned here, the fact that the individuals were caught and processed out is actually indicative of a working conduct system, rather than one that is flawed. If anything your question would be directed towards admissions as to why such caliber people got accepted in the first place. However, the point remains that no matter how detailed of a search you do for people, or how scrupulous your standards, there will be people who believe they are above the rules and will do what they want regardless of the regulations that are in place.

Worrying about this is paramount to worrying about the hair growing on your head. A rather useless endeavor which is likely to produce nothing more than ulcers on your end.
 
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