how competitive is Arizona

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  1. Man2112

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    How competitive is Arizona compared to other states?
     
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    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    Hi!

    That's an impossible question.

    Competitiveness is a "relative" term: what determines competitiveness? The students in AZ have been EXTREMELY successful in obtaining admission to USAFA in the past 15 years that I've been an ALO here. We typically send 40+ to USAFA every year. If you take a look at the demographic breakdown of the state, the population centers, etc., you'll find that compared to other states we are VERY successful.

    But "how competitive" are we compared to whom? California has a population density 6x ours (2008 census) but I doubt they sent 250 folks to USAFA...and others, etc...etc...

    What would you really like to know about AZ? I can probably tell you since I am Deputy Director for ALO's in AZ.

    Steve
    USAFA ALO
    USAFA '83
     
  3. Drew_22

    Drew_22 USAFA Cadet

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    Well that is true! Last year in the state of Utah where I live only sent 9 people to the USAFA last year.
     
  4. Man2112

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    alright. Well is there anyway to tell me the success rate of certain cities? Like, Gilbert for instance? Or the success rate of certain high school?
     
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    Hi!

    Nope, not really. Why?

    Because the "success" isn't really school related; it's related to the nominations made by the members of congress, senators, etc. And they don't care what school you go to; they care "is this the best or one of the best that I can nominate to XXXX from my district/state?"

    In a "general" sense I can tell you that from MY schools: Chandler HS and Hamilton HS have been the "big hitters." Brophy and Xavier to very well.

    But then again...we have students selected from Globe HS, Yuma, Kearny, AJ, etc.

    What we find determines things is:

    a. Do the schools have any applicants? THAT will determine whether or not the school will have any success. You'd be surprised how many GOOD schools have no applicants.

    b. How involved the counseling/guidance staff is with their students.

    PM me and tell me your school...I can find out which of my ALO's works there and he/she can tell me how they've done in recent years.

    Steve
    USAFA ALO
    USAFA '83
     

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