How long does your record stay in the DOBMERB system?

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  1. sabre2spartan

    sabre2spartan New Member

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    I was in AFROTC and was medically disqualified for sleep apnea in February for March of 2011. I was not a contracted cadet. I have graduated and wanted to join the national guard but I am not sure if my record is still in the system that says i have sleep apnea.
     
  2. Pima

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    DoDMERB exams are valid for 2 yrs.
     
  3. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    You will still have to acknowledge that you have sleep apnea or a history of sleep apnea. That could still be disqualifying for the National Guard.
     
  4. kar57

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    Valid for 2 years....this cuts it close!

    DS took DoDMERB exams 6-28-11 and passed (DoDMERB determined DS Qualified for USNA “as of 07 July 2011”). He is now a USNA Foundation sponsored prep at NMMI aiming for appointment to USNA Class of ’17 which will be inducted on 6-27-13 – one year and 364 days following his DoDMERB exams! DoDMERB only requires an “Administrative Remedial” now – no doctor’s appointment, rather a Present Health Questionnaire to be filled out by DS and sent to DoDMERB. :smile:
     
  5. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Yes, if you are qualified and your medical situation does not change, you remain qualified for 2 years. However, if you were DQ'ed for a medical issue, that determination is also unlikely to change unless your medical situation changes. The OP stated he/she was initially disqualified.
     
  6. Pima

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    That's the thing, the OP can wait until March, but the fact is he will have to answer the fact that he has been diagnosed previously with sleep apnea.

    If I was the OP I would get my medical paperwork in order, for the in case a DQ occurs again.
     
  7. kar57

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    Oops!

    Just want to admit my error here…my “cutting it close” post was only tangentially on-topic of the OP’s original post – and for that I apologize. Let me explain.

    What jumped out at me in this thread was Pima’s post “DoDMERB exams are valid for 2 years” – it jumped out at me because this “2 year DoDMERB shelf life” could be seen – well, let me be completely honest…IS seen, by ME, as a possible stopper to DS’ appointment even in the face of all other requirements being met/exceeded.
    With 4 of seven kids either active duty officers or in officer training, they - and I - are schooled in many of the obvious and not-so-obvious pitfalls along the way. For them, being DoDMERB qualified has been a major hurdle for some, a stopper for one, and for the Foundation Prep DS – an immediate “you’re qualified!” We’ve all known all along that there exists the 2 year shelf life of the DoDMERB…and we’re also abundantly aware of the hard and fast nature of military regulations – standards and requirements and deadlines aren’t suggestions, so knowing all that – questions arise - when does the clock begin on a DoDMERB qualified candidate? The day of the exam, the date stamped on the “you’re qualified” letter from DoDMERB? And is it exactly two years from that date to what date – I-Day? Board of Review Day?
    I know how this must appear…obsessing…overthinking…crazy talk…but goodness knows, going on the experiences my own kids have had thus far plus the many experiences discussed on these forums provides me with the fuel to keep my obsessing, overthinking fires burning white hot!
    Again, apologies for taking Pima’s post out of its intended context and going off on a tangent!
     
  8. Pima

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    To answer your question about when to when? From what I know they must contract before that 2 yr date of exam. In other words, let's use an AFROTC cadet that applies to the AFA, not selected receives a Type 7 4 yr and converts it to a Type 2 3 yr.

    They took their exam Aug. their rising sr yr in hs, got the letter Sept 14th. Although they received and accepted an AFROTC scholarship, it is a 3 yr., and for them their school starts Sept 5th. Pass PFT Sept 11th. Contracting date is Sept 12th.

    It doesn't matter that the exam was valid when they accepted the scholarship May of their sr yr in HS. It doesn't matter that they were in AFROTC as a freshman in college. It doesn't matter the date it was written. What matters is when they went to contract, the exam was no longer valid, because it passed the 2 yr date from when the exam was given.

    2 yrs is to contracting.
     
  9. kar57

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    Makes sense! So specifically - does USNA I-Day = XXROTC contracting date in the case of the DoDMERB when-to-when question? If that's the case, DS just will make the DoDMERB expiration date by one day! And that's cutting it close...
     
  10. Just_A_Mom

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    If you are trying to enlist in the National Guard your DODMERB physical is irrelevant. You will go to MEPS and have a physical there.
    Your Medical History is, however, very relevant.

    If/when you ever attempt to contract in an officer assession program - you will go through DODMERB again and they will have your records even if you wait two years. Actually, I am not quite sure if OCS etc uses DODMERB - I *think* they have their own medical process, so don't quote me on that.

    The DODMERB physical is 'good' for two years. If one is qualified through DODMERB they have two years in which to contract - or they will need to get another physical exam. If it's been less than two years they may be asked to update their medical history.
     
  11. Pima

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    kar,

    I day is their contracting date. The thing is they are very aware of that date in his file, and if they have concerns they will request a new exam.

    A few yrs back USNA moved their I-DAy back to the 1st week of July. Now before you start fretting, I am not sure it would matter either way because your DS is a USNA foundation scholarship recipient. I don't know the way that system works, but I would assume it would be like a ROTC 4 yr scholarship recipient. ROTC scholarship recipients contract the 1st yr., but there is a no harm/no foul clause that if they leave before their 2nd yr. begins, in other words, they owe nothing to the military. They will contract again in ROTC or at the SA later on where it becomes the IF you leave, you owe this many yrs AD. They do not take another exam for this signing. If that is true for him, than in essence he may already be considered "contracted" in their view when it comes to the DoDMERB.

    Just a guess and an assumption, both that should be taken with a grain of salt and than throw it in the circular filing cabinet.
     
  12. JMS

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    sleep apnea is, I believe, often susceptible to being cured. Getting it fixed would be a change in medical condition. So one may wish to consider getting it fixed/cured (if possible) prior to your next medical exam.
    I sense the OP may be considering 'omitting' the condition on the questionnaire after the two year window in hopes the condition will be overlooked. I'm thinking that would be a poor choice. The exam expires after two years. I doubt the old info is lost or destroyed. Rather, it will show up just in time to bite you in the hindmost parts if there is a significant difference with the new paperwork.
     
  13. Pima

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    +1 JMS post.

    Don't try to work the system.
     

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