How many nominees

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  1. SMZ

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    Is there any known publication of how many nominees each congress person has at each of the Academies at any time? I couldn't find anything and my guess is that they don't publish the numbers but I was just curious. Would it vary by depending on the congress person?
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  2. packermatt7

    packermatt7 USAFA Cadet

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    5 per Congressman/Congresswoman
     
  3. SMZ

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    I know its 5 per, however that means some years there are more than one vacancy, and also if there is a new congressmen elected, do they carry over the nominees from the previous office holder? I live in NY, Clinton is now Secretary of State and the new senator is Gillibrand. Does she have 5 available spots? Or only however many vacancies left over by Hillary?
     
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    A member of congress may nominate up to 10 people for each opening they have at a service academy. A member of congress may have no more than 5 "credited" appointees at any service academy.

    So in theory he/she could nominate up to 50 people in a single year. My MOC has 2 openings at USAFA this year; we'll be able to nominate up to 20 candidates.

    Steve
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  5. Christcorp

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    Members of congress nominations are "Representative" in nature. That means that 453 representatives can have up to 5 each. Some states have 50+ representative; like California. Some have 1; like Wyoming. It doesn't matter WHO is in that office. That OFFICE is authorized 5 at the academy at any one time. Obviously, there are plenty of others from a particular district. Some have presidential nominations, vp, etc.... Those cadets DON'T COUNT towards the congressman's quota.
     
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    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    To take it a step further...

    Once the "credited appointment" is made, the other nominees are placed into the "qualified alternate" pool. And from that pool almost half of the class will come, in a typical year.

    GREAT example of how this can work. Several years ago our Jr Senator: Jon Kyl, nominated 20 candidates to USAFA. Of course, 2 were appointed and 18 went to the qualified alternate pool.

    When all the dust settled from the appointment process, another 12 of Sen Kyl's nominees were appointed!!!

    He was so ecstatic that he called the ALO's to tell US and congratulate US...we said: "Congratulate the students!!!"

    And to show the kind of guy he is: he did just that!

    Steve
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  7. SMZ

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    Okay, that makes sense now, thank you Flieger and Christcorp.
     
  8. flieger83

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    No.

    The academy will select the most qualified, provided that the MoC doesn't designate a "Principle and 9 alternates" method. But let's not go there...suffice it to say, 1 is going to USAFA and the other 9 go into the qualified alternate pool.

    From there...any of them might be selected as that's where we get a LOT of the class!!!

    See my note above re: Senator Jon Kyl.

    Steve
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  9. SMZ

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    I was writing that before I saw your Senator Kyl example, I'll delete mine now. Thanks again, that clears up a lot of confusion (And anxiety)
     

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