How Many????

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  1. dhenry94

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    How many generally apply for this scolarship? Then, how many actually recieve it?
     
  2. gojack

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    Army/AF/Navy/Marines???
    ROTC scholarship?
     
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    I'm speaking for AROTC numbers.

    Depending on the year it can be somewhere between 10,000 and 15,000. Consider that most applicants that apply to West Point also apply for the scholarship as a back up. You can look at the Academy website and see just how many applications they have each year. You also have to remember that many apply to more then one service.

    The number off applicants can change year to year, back in 2008 there were not near as many applicants as there are today. Take into consideration the present state of the economy and the fact that the 2 wars are on the decline and you will see a far greater number of applicants.

    Last year the number of scholarships awarded were roughly 2200 plus/minus. This gives you an idea of just how competitive the process is right now.
     
  4. dhenry94

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    Sorry I meant for NROTC scolarships
     
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    2009 Navy ROTC:
    ---22,000 NROTC applications started
    ---5,450 NROTC applications boarded
    ---1,250 NROTC scholarships awarded
    ---270 NROTC Marine option ascensions
     
  6. Pima

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    That is frightening when you look at the numbers.

    Overall, it is about 8% from start to finish that get the scholarship.

    Curiosity here. Does NROTC "talk" to USNA regarding "boarded"? AFROTC and AFA do not talk. If they talk it would explain the large drop in boarding; i.e. waiting to see if the candidate applying NROTC as plan B is picked up by USNA, hence no reason to board them! Leaving them without the option of Plan B even if they got USNA.

    OR are they saying that 16550 applicants didn't even meet the parameters to be boarded? If so, in this day and age, as a taxpayer worried about government waste, shouldn't they create a form that says "to be competitive you need X SAT/ACT, Y uwgpa". IMPO, if they did they would have less files being opened and less stress on their system.

    Just asking.
     
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    I would think the majority of those 16K applicants never finished their applications. Still, even if "boarded" in 2009 an applicant had about a 25% chance of receiving a scholarship and supposedly the number of applicants has increased while the number of scholarships has decreased during the last two years. Like you said "frightening' numbers if you are an applicant.
     
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    NROTC and USNA - as for 2009 - my son was in that year group (HS graduation year) -he had NROTC on his list as backup plan, in summer of 2008, USNA sent him a letter acknowledging his candidate status, and introducing him to NROTC program - encouraged him to apply there as well.
    We were told that the TWO did NOT share file information, but think I remeber as that year progressed or maybe next year, that some poster referred to part of a file shared between the two organizations. Maybe I am off on military branch - they all do it at least slightly differently. larrys mom
     
  9. gojack

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    about 1,250 NROTC scholarships awarded
    about 1,500 USNA Appointments awarded
     
  10. Pima

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    Gojack,


    Is "awarded" the same as "offered" or is it the same "accepted"

    Two different things.

    I don't know many SA candidates that do not apply for ROTC scholarships. In your scenario, 1500 were appointed to the USNA. 1250 were awarded a scholarship. That would mean 250 USNA appointees did not receive a scholarship (i.e. not awarded)

    Now, if you mean in the end 1250 were awarded scholarships, that brings us back to the amount "offered" since awarded would equal accepted. Did they offer 1750 and 1250 accepted = awarded? That to me is the number missing. How many were "offered". I think for most posters that is also the number they want to see.

    Terminology matters.
     
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  11. gojack

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    I have never found the number offered, only awarded (accepted). Neither number appears to be constant yr over yr. The salient point is the USNA currently offers a few more 'scholarships' than NROTC. (Both USNA and NROTC produce about 270 Marine Officers each for a total of around 540/yr.)
    With many/most USNA applicants also applying for NROTC, I am theorizing that the mathematical acceptance rate is actually lower for NROTC. (more applicants for NROTC - for fewer slots)

    I know nothing about the Navy, just Google...
    "I never liked the idea of ships much, there's no dirt to dig a hole in."
    (paraphrasing a quote from a famous Bill Mauldin cartoon) Link
     
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  12. Pima

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    That is my thought too regarding scholarships.

    Soon there will be the chance me threads going. Here is my staple answer to any poster asking to be chanced.

    95% of SA candidates will apply for ROTC, however 95% of ROTC candidates don't apply for an SA. If the boards (SA/ROTC) do not talk. You must ask yourself how do you rack and stack up against the SA candidate.

    The SA candidate is your true competition because many will get a TWE and take Plan B. Some even hold onto that scholarship until they report for I Day, thus, their scholarship does not go back in the pot of money for that yr.

    NROTC is probably the most competitive scholarship out there, and I am going to even say from a national perspective of all scholarships out there. Their stats are out the door amazing.

    The one thing to understand for NROTC scholarship is not only your intended major, but that dang 5 school list will play a part in getting a scholarship. You need to really think about the colleges you list. Every yr. without fail there are recipients that got a scholarship to a school, but a rejection for admittance or they got admitted, but not the scholarship.

    With this yr's DOD budget looking painful, and the economy in the tanks while cost of attending college is rising, I would say it is not unrealistic to believe that less scholarships maybe offered than prior yrs while the pool size increases. That will mean the stats will even be higher.
     

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