How NOT to represent the NROTC

Discussion in 'ROTC' started by Harbor1, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. Harbor1

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    Hunter Biden was not NROTC, since he commissioned at the age of 44 I assume he was a Direct Commission.

    That really doesn't matter considering how he left the Navy, I wonder if he still holds his position at Georgetown.
     
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    Am I the only one wondering why at 42 he joined in the first place?
     
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    So when he runs for office, he can tout military experience....
     
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    I saw one report that he needed a waiver due to past drug use for commissioning. His lack of remorse in another story was pathetic "it was only a part time job anyway"
     
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    WSJ article

    "The vice president and his wife, Jill Biden, speak regularly about the pride they take in being a military family, often referring to son Beau Biden’s time in the Delaware Army National Guard and his yearlong deployment to Iraq. After Hunter Biden joined the Navy, his mother said he was following in the footsteps of two of his grandfathers, who also served in the Navy."
     
  8. Pima

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    Yeah it only took him to the age that most military members are retiring to realize he wanted to serve!

    How dumb do the Bidens believe Americans are?

    Don't answer that! It was rhetorical.

    The only thing I have yet to hear/read is the discharge. That offense is not usually an honorable discharge.
     
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    I think he just ended his father’s presidential run in 2016, if of course if he was in the stalls to begin with.
     
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    Administrative discharge?
     
  11. mbitr

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    There is no such thing as an administrative discharge. They mean he was administratively separated. An administrative separation simply means you were involuntarily removed from the service. It is nonjudicial, and this is normally the method of choice for removing people who pop hot. I'm not entirely spun up on how it works for officers, but the separation authority is the one who determines what type of discharge is warranted.
     
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    I thought the same. I thought there were only three. Honorable, general and dishonorable. I thought administrative was just a reference to the process.
     
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    Guess he won't be able to check that box off.
     
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    I thought the same. I thought there were only three. Honorable, general and dishonorable. I thought administrative was just a reference to the process.

    If memory serves ( 30 years ago) this was for enlisted, not sure if different for officers.... Honorable, general ( failure to adapt etc..), other than honorable ( Awol,, too many Art 15), Bad conduct ( no explanation necessary), dishonorable.
     
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    Okay...so what do you think he fell in? Now what do your think he was released under?
     
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    Back in the day if you "popped positive" you were given the 'big chicken dinner" AKA Bad Conduct Discharge. Anything less than that under these circumstances would lead me to believe daddy made some calls...
     
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    I spent two years as a legal office in my units. Oh the fun… For the most part and from what I saw at other places in the USMC, standard practice was NJP maxed out then Admin Sep. Under Admin Sep, if I remember right, the least someone can get is General (under honorable). This pretty much allows them to go on with life but not receive the majority of their VA benefits (unless this has changed). This was the fastest way to get someone discharged. Officers and those with 6 years of service (I think… someone can chime in and correct me) are entitled to challenge this separation and go before a board. A service member can always reject NJP and go to court martial and a CO can always recommend a court martial that can result in a lower discharge category.
     
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    The characterization of service (type of discharge) is entirely up to the separation authority. The commander/intermediate commanders make a recommendation, and the approving authority makes the final call. Again, I haven't bothered to read the reg for officers and my experience is entirely Army-based; the possible outcomes are an OTH, a General, or an Honorable. In all honesty, who cares? The only reason this is news is because of his last name. All the rich politicians' kids know that if you want to do blow, you have to join the Texas Air National Guard.
     
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    I wonder if my son was a Biden if he would still get that big Navy ROTC disenrollment bill?

    My guess is no.
     

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