How will sequestration effect ROTC?

ERAUMattmom said:
PIMA.....
You can't be gone now..just when we need you the most!!!!
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Pima I very much appreciate your wealth of knowledge. I'm sorry if I contributed to the confusion, that is why I did state that I did not know the reason for the reduction in stipend for incoming freshman. It makes sense now that it was already in place.
 
I thank you all for wanting me to stay.

I will check pms dailly, and if you need me I will be here privately.

However, please understand this is also for the good of this site.

Our DS commissioned last May. My kid's path is different than what many of you will be experiencing...especially because of sequestration.

There comes a time that someone has to take the torch. I know in my heart, that there are many posters that will step up for AFROTC.

I will be here, feel free to pm me. SAF is akin to FB for me. I have friends and we pm each other to update each other.

I will pm posters if I feel I can help.

However, I respect this site, and posters too much to stay just for me. You all need current guidance, especially because of sequestration.

Here is my advice:

Cadets trust the cadre --- their number 1 goal is to make you a great officer.
~ Dets are unique, your CoC will write your rec. Not us.
~~ We can help, with guidance, but in the end it is the det that impacts your future.

Parents trust your child. Cut the apron string, don't helo
~ In a blink of an eye they will be up for SFT/EA
~ Next blink and it is AFSC boards
~ Blink after that and you are hearing:

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

And pinning on butter bars.


You are all in great hands.Trust the site.

Like I said, I will be here via pms. I am so thrilled that you want me, but AF comes 1st, and last for me. SAF is part of that too.

I will never leave any of you in your time of need. I will always be here, but like a guest at a party...you have to know when it is time to leave.

Christcorp(CC), flieger, Agagles, kevster, nick4060, Non Ducor Duco, all can assist every poster.

CC and fleiger are ALO's
Agagles has a child in AFROTC and at the AFA.
kevster just got a UPT slot as a 300 non tech
nick commissioned last yr as an Intel officer
Non Ducor Duco is in the system as an AFROTC cadet.


You see...I am not as invaluable as you may think... they are there and will be there.

Many of my posts come from info that I gathered from other AF forums. That truly is why I am still relevant.

PM me if you want to know the forums, it is against the TOS to link them...out of respect I won't do it.

Beware those forums are not as great as this site...you have to know how to look for what you want.

Best wishes, hopes, and thoughts

AIM HIGH...ABOVE ALL
Pima
 
Hi. I'm a mom just trying to understand how all this works. Pima said in her post (about SFT) that "they may have decided to go small this yr., and allow 200's to become 500's." Can someone explain what this means? I get what the 200's are, but what are the 500's and what does it mean that 200's will become 500's? Thanks for the education!
 
hockeypals said:
Hi. I'm a mom just trying to understand how all this works. Pima said in her post (about SFT) that "they may have decided to go small this yr., and allow 200's to become 500's." Can someone explain what this means? I get what the 200's are, but what are the 500's and what does it mean that 200's will become 500's? Thanks for the education!
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If no one jumps in with an answer PM PIMA. I hate to venture a guess on the intricacies of AFROTC.
 
hockeypals said:
Hi. I'm a mom just trying to understand how all this works. Pima said in her post (about SFT) that "they may have decided to go small this yr., and allow 200's to become 500's." Can someone explain what this means? I get what the 200's are, but what are the 500's and what does it mean that 200's will become 500's? Thanks for the education!
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From what has been posted about this in the past....

If a 200 does not receive an EA/SFT slot they can sometimes be allowed to stay in the program as a 500 and compete for EA the next go around.

That's the "AFROTC fo Dummies" answer....me being the dummy. I'm sure someone will fill in the blanks.
 
Oh, that makes sense. I had heard that they may be allowed to stay in if they didn't get SFT, but I didn't know they would be called 500's. Thanks!
 
Hokeypals,

I know a few 200s who were told this year by the cadre that their packages weren't nearly strong enough to be competitive for an Enrollment Allocation to FT so they pulled their applications and said that they would be allowed to stay and repeat 200 year. I think they are technically 500s when that happens, but nobody actually calls them that, they just blend back in with the new 200s so that's what we refer to them as.

The chances of getting this 2nd chance at all really depends on how the Cadre views the cadet. Sometimes they just tell cadets with weak packages that they should drop because they're not going to get an EA, but if they like you, see that your hard working, and think that all you need is another year to get your grades in order then they'll give it to you. They want you to succeed and will do everything they can to help you, but only if you put everything you have into it as well.

Hope that answers your question.
 
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Out of curiosity, if you aren't competitive enough for SFT, what are the chances of being allowed to stay and compete for a slot Jr year? Or is that all really dependent on how that cadre sees the cadet?
 
Adelita said:
Everyone's stipend is going down next FY in AFROTC. Your pay will most likely stay at 300.
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Just heard from my daughter today that her Detachment informed the Cadets that beginning in the Fall their monthly stipend will be reduced 20%. For her (as a senior in the Fall) that will mean that she will receive $400.00 per month. That is $50.00 per month less than she is currently receiving as a junior and $100.00 less per month than what the current AFROTC seniors are receiving. Painful, but bearable.

Not surprisingly the cadets were also notified that there was not any funds for grad school programs.
 
Non Ducor Duco,
Thanks. That makes a lot of sense about the 500's. My son is a 200, so I guess we will just keep our fingers crossed for another week to see what happens!

I appreciate the info.
 
aglages said:
Just heard from my daughter today that her Detachment informed the Cadets that beginning in the Fall their monthly stipend will be reduced 20%. For her (as a senior in the Fall) that will mean that she will receive $400.00 per month. That is $50.00 per month less than she is currently receiving as a junior and $100.00 less per month than what the current AFROTC seniors are receiving. Painful, but bearable.

Not surprisingly the cadets were also notified that there was not any funds for grad school programs.
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Wow! I'm a bit surprised to see that cut, but it is what it is. Reducing it for new scholarship awardees made a bit more sense, but I thought existing contracted cadets would be "grandfathered". I've only seen this with regard to AFROTC so far. Has anyone heard about anything similar with AROTC and NROTC? I would assume they'll do the same, but in this case, since it's only me, only one person can be made an a$$.
 
aglages said:
Just heard from my daughter today that her Detachment informed the Cadets that beginning in the Fall their monthly stipend will be reduced 20%. For her (as a senior in the Fall) that will mean that she will receive $400.00 per month. That is $50.00 per month less than she is currently receiving as a junior and $100.00 less per month than what the current AFROTC seniors are receiving. Painful, but bearable.

Not surprisingly the cadets were also notified that there was not any funds for grad school programs.
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Well my DS is NOT going to be happy about that! He will be a 200 next year, AFROTC. He is on springbreak this week so has not heard anything in regards to this so I am anxious to see what/if his cadre will tell them when they get back.
 
I am a NROTC MO hopeful and my CO of my district informed me the other day that sequestration will NOT affect the February board for scholarships :shake: but results will take another week or 2 to come out :thumbdown:
 
kinnem said:
Wow! I'm a bit surprised to see that cut, but it is what it is. Reducing it for new scholarship awardees made a bit more sense, but I thought existing contracted cadets would be "grandfathered". I've only seen this with regard to AFROTC so far. Has anyone heard about anything similar with AROTC and NROTC? I would assume they'll do the same, but in this case, since it's only me, only one person can be made an a$$.
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I'll have to double check, but I'm almost positive my contract lists my stipend by year and how much it would be so I would think a change would conflict with what I already signed. I'm not familiar with AFROTC contracts so I can't compare.
 
-Bull- said:
I'll have to double check, but I'm almost positive my contract lists my stipend by year and how much it would be so I would think a change would conflict with what I already signed. I'm not familiar with AFROTC contracts so I can't compare.
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The stipend is listed year by year; followed by:

"These rates are generally prescribed by law and implemented by the Secretary of Defense and may change during the period of this contract."
 
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EDelahanty said:
The stipend is listed year by year; followed by:

"These rates are generally prescribed by law and implemented by the Secretary of Defense and may change during the period of this contract."
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No such thing as a cut and dry contract anymore. There are always those little caveats! :smile:
 
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