Incompetent detachment commander

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  1. afstr

    afstr New Member

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    Our current detachment commander has been extremely incompetent this semester. They are biased, dont follow the rules of rotc and even go as far as encouraging students to push their education aside as rotc comes first.

    These are just few examples and I am not the only one who feels this way. Unfortunately, other Cadet are afraid to report for obvious reasons. We have given feedback to our commander but they are ignored, our commander seems to think that the program is they're toy and does whatever they want. Is there any way that we can report our commander anonymously?
     
  2. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    Are you speaking about AFROTC? I am guessing that's the case because the AF uses the term "detachment" more commonly.




     
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  3. Spud

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    Who or what is "they"? "Commander" is singular, "they" is plural.
     
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  4. NavyHoops

    NavyHoops Moderator

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    Before you move up the chain of command to make complaints you better have your ducks in a row. And yes the chain of command is the way to go. There is always the IG too. Allegations like these are taken very seriously, but you better have specifics, not generalizations. You need to have specific events, activities, things said, dates/times/locations/, who was there, and be able to prove they violated a rule. Just making a complaint that can't substantiated or just general in nature of things won't work. You use the term incompetent, really understand what that means in the military context, not just a general statement. Also, really take a look back and think things through. Is this Commander really just different then what you had before and you don't like the change? Is he really just challenging you to figure out how to balance school and ROTC, and maybe you were allowed to get lots of ROTC breaks to do school things before? I am no way saying you are lying or this isn't true. I just think to throw around a term of incompetence and filing a complaint you better have your i's dotted and t's crossed and rechecked again and again.
     
  5. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    +1 to NavyHoops and Spud.

    Afstr, your post reads more like a rant than a cogent statement of facts. If you want credibility, you should also write with correct grammar and with specific details that allow the reader to grasp the situation. Instead, you have everyone guessing on what you mean! Please understand that this is meant as advice and not belittlement.
     
  6. rocatlin

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    I think my first concern is that this is being aired in public forum. Having said that, it may have been better phrased as "If I suspect and have specific examples of unethical/biased or incompetent conduct within my local ROTC unit, what path of escalation/notification do I have--preferably an anonymous path?"

    Again, your statement comes across more of a rant as gokings stated.

    Does your unit's detachment regulations specify any path of redress? I think all of us that are veterans would encourage you to explore the rules first. Frankly, this won't be the only time in your career (whether civilian or armed service) that you'll run across behavior that appears to be unprofessional.

    Tread carefully and make sure you stick to the facts.
     
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  7. afstr

    afstr New Member

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    I apologize I was in a hurry when I wrote that. Thank you for the advice, I should have definitely phrased things better. I should have stated that these were suspicions and not facts. The reason I used "they" and did not go too much into specific details is because I did not want to make it obvious what detachment I am from in case someone from there reads this.

    I will think more and talk to more Cadets before taking any further action, I understand that if we (my fellow Cadets and I) are going to pursue a report we need to have specific events,times, and things said. I have some documented but not enough I guess.
     
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  8. -Bull-

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    If I was you, I'd read and re-read NavyHoops post 4 or 5 more times after speaking with your fellow cadets. I'm not saying don't do anything, just be aware that what you're getting into is probably something you've never experienced and is not a small time issue. Regardless of how it might end up if you move forward, just know things will be different (and sometimes negative with both outcomes) and you need to ask yourself if you're ready for that.
     

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