Individual Ready Reserve

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  1. AJC

    AJC Member

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    I have read that NROTC-Marine option Midshipman are being commissioned into the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) for up to 12 months while waiting for a slot at The Basic School (TBS).

    questions;
    Is this true?
    Does it apply to graduates of Senior Military Colleges as well?

    thanks
     
  2. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    It appears that it has happened before. I don't know if SMC's are less prone to it.

    ...see the previous thread:

    http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/showthread.php?t=33292
     
  3. AJC

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    Thank you. That was the thread I was looking for.
    No one specifically said that it happened coming from a SMC.
    Although I imagine that the various branches may not differentiate between newly commissioned since they are all products of (N)ROTC.
    When I was in the service the speech at every new duty station started with "Forget everything you have been told up to now"
     
  4. kinnem

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    I'm confident it happens with SMC graduates as well, although I am not personally aware of it happening. The issue isn't where one graduated from. The issue is the number of available slots at TBS. Currently TBS is the bottleneck in the pipeline and that's why it's taking up to a year to get folks through TBS.
     
  5. bruno

    bruno Retired Staff Member

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    Yes- this can happen to graduates from SMCs as well as regular ROTC programs. The son of one of my classmates graduated in the Class of 2013 from VMI- he was on hold until the following April to get to TBS. Too many Lieutenants- not enough school slots. It's pretty inconvenient- not long enough to get a good civilian job with some responsibility- too long to be without a job. I think he wound up working at Home Depot for 8 months. However, you will wind up a TBS eventually!
     
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  6. AJC

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    The referenced thread said it happens with AROTC grads as well. Does anyone have any insight on that?

    My son, a junior in HS, is currently evaluating both the Army and Marine options. As well as researching the SMCs, Visits planned at Norwich, Citadel, and Texas A&M.
    He intends to try to gain appointment to USMA and/or USNA.
     
  7. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    School visits are of huge importance. My DS changed his choices after visiting two SA's and two SMC's. He ended up applying to the schools I least expected him to be drawn to.
     
  8. AJC

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    I agree. We have already visited West Point.
    We will probably visit the rest minus UNG as it does not offer Civil Engineering.
     
  9. Jcleppe

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    Not much insight, just that it does happen with AROTC. After the cadets receive their branches they will then start getting orders and dates for their Branch BOLC training. Some will go very soon after graduation and some will have a delay, sometimes the delay can be several months and up to almost a year. A lot will depend on the pipeline for their specific branch.

    This year there was a sharp increase in the number of Infantry slots, I'm sure this will translate into some longer wait times to start IBOLC.

    It has been stated a few times that report dates follow somewhat the OML position of the cadet in regard to start dates.

    Cadets are counseled on this during their MS4 year. Some cadets will apply to work at LDAC (Now CLC), some will apply for Goad Bar Recruiter to help fill the gap. Many will just head back home and either get a job if their wait time is longer, or just hang out if they have a short wait time.

    Cadets put in a request for when they would like to start BOLC, but I wouldn't count on that, most of the cadets didn't get anything close to the report time they requested when my older son graduated, he requested September and ended up leaving 12 days after graduation. Switching start times with someone is not something that is really done, some have tried and have been met with severe push back.

    Best advice if you have a long wait is to stay out of trouble, keep working out to stay in shape, and try and enjoy your bubble time before the real fun starts.
     
  10. NavyHoops

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    This is true for the USMC. The USMC pushes USNA and MECEP grads to earlier TBS companies because they are on Active Duty from the day they commission. So they want their money's worth! Most of my company at TBS was USNA, MECEP grads from all over and some ROTC and/or PLC grads. I would say ROTC or PLC grades make up about 50 of 250 slots. Summer companies tend to be USNA and MECEP heavy and then as fall approaches and to later companies they tend to have more ROTC/PLC commissions. If they still follow their previous patterns, ROTC/PLC grads will get active duty orders that start the day before their class start date at TBS. Its not a big deal, TBS has tons of time built in for paperwork, pay stuff, uniform fittings, medical, etc. To be honest after a week or two no one cared where any commissioned from. Our company was an interesting mix because we were so USNA and MECEP centric. MECEP guys were skeptical at first of USNA grads and we kept wondering who the "old guys" were! After about 3 days they realized that most of their thoughts on USNA grads were wrong and we got along great. USNA grads tend to know the Quantico area very well as we have lived at TBS during Leatherneck. So combining that knowledge with their fleet time, it actually worked really well and we realized we can help each out a lot. I think the one advantage USNA, SMC and MECEP folks have is having lived in a very constructed environment in the past. My TBS room mates were ROTC grads and it took them a bit to adjust to living/working and being in a military environment for the majority of the day. For USNA and SMC grads, it was a lot less for us, so it wasn't an issue.
     
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  11. Jcleppe

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    For a lot of the AROTC BOLC's, ROTC grads make up a majority for the first month or so of summer. Many USMA grads take advantage of their leave time given at graduation. My older son did not see any USMA grads at Aviation BOLC for about 5 weeks.
     
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