Indoc rumours?

[KPHELICOPTERMOM]

i've heard (from my DS) that indoc this year may be "much easier" in his words, with Candididates being split up into groups of 10 with 2 "team leaders" instead of the traditional platoon and ADI, EDI, SDI drill instructors and no IT allowed. Anyone hear anything about this?
Personally, I think that Kp Mids do not get enough of the regiment and get off way to easy. I believe that since this is a military school they should respect the regiment more, maybe daily drill practice, marching, daily PT or just make Marine or Army Ops mandatory as well as have more DI's on campus to keep them focused on the regiment. My DS agrees with me and is signed up to be a DI this year.
Any thoughts?

 

[wac2013]

i've heard (from my DS) that indoc this year may be "much easier" in his words, with Candididates being split up into groups of 10 with 2 "team leaders" instead of the traditional platoon and ADI, EDI, SDI drill instructors and no IT allowed. Anyone hear anything about this?
Personally, I think that Kp Mids do not get enough of the regiment and get off way to easy. I believe that since this is a military school they should respect the regiment more, maybe daily drill practice, marching, daily PT or just make Marine or Army Ops mandatory as well as have more DI's on campus to keep them focused on the regiment. My DS agrees with me and is signed up to be a DI this year.
Any thoughts?

well, theyre starting to recruit for DIs among the 4th class right now, so i doubt that there's much change on the way for this years indoc. im guessing we'll see changes similar to, but perhaps not as drastic as, the things youve mentioned in years to come, but from everything we've been told this years will look much like last years.

im not sure daily drill/marching/PT is the ticket to raising respect for the regiment. rather, it would most likely breed a fair bit of resentment for the system, as it would add additional stress to daily life, as well as taking up what would probably be a significant block of time from a schedule that everyone here will agree is already pretty jam-packed. (im writing this on my Logistics study break, and if i get 4 1/2 hours of sleep tonight i will be lucky- Logistics and CelNav tests tomorrow, along with a physics lab due and another one to perform first period). making Marine Ops or Army Ops mandatory would COMPLETELY defeat the point of the programs (e.g. motivated people who WANT to work towards a shared goal) as well as stressing them to the point of ineffectiveness via sheer group size. The reality of Kings Point (as far as can be observed by my few short months here) is that most of the people who come to this academy come here for the best available education on how to operate ships for CIVILIAN jobs, with the military officer aspect a second priority, sometimes a very distant second. as such, the "High speed, low drag, Hoorah military" factor of the majority of the student body is somewhat more subdued than at our sister academies, where such an attitude is expected and an integral part of the experience. another thing that keeps such an attitude from developing is the many different paths taken by our graduates: every different service, civilian jobs, government jobs, the list goes on and on. Kings Point is therefore lacking in a single, solid direction into which to devote such energy. it would be similar to a cadet at West Point somehow headed for a Naval career; split loyalties which tend to prevent a unified drive.

In answer to the universal question of "motivating" the regiment, im not going to pretend to have the answers. i think that ramming more regiment down our throats is probably not the answer. at a certain point, doing so would discourage those that are here to obtain a maritime education by shifting the focus from a shipboard training emphasis to a general military preparation environment, at which point my bet is that you would see the percentage of graduates sailing drop and the percentage taking active commissions rise (as is the trend already). at that point, one begins to question the point of having an academy that serves to simply provide another route to an active commission than that service's academy. and THAT is something that needs to be avoided at all costs.

 

[kp2001]

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