Initial Strength Test

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  1. USNAcantwait

    USNAcantwait New Member

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    I will be entering with the class of 2019 this July, and I will prelude this with saying that I have no intentions of failing the IST. However, I run a 8min/mi 3 mile pace and have been unable to get my run under the 1030 for 1.5 mile. To my understanding, if you do not pass it does not mean separation? If not separation, what is the result of failing the IST? I can safely pass both the pushups and situps, and I have been running every day and plan to continue doing so in preparation.


    Thanks in advance,
    USNAcantwait
     
  2. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    You should try doing some type of interval/speed work to help. Running at a slow pace each day isn't necessarily going to help you get faster. I thought the recommended workout sheet had example workouts for this in there (it's been a while since I looked at it, though). Someone can correct me, but isn't the last plebe summer PRT now count for that semester's PRT score? Many plebes have a hard time running the time at the beginning of PS but can by the end. Warning: you will be doing quite a few speed/interval workouts during PS and you should push hard at these because this will give you the speed and the longer runs will give you the stamina.
     
  3. NavyHoops

    NavyHoops Moderator

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    Yes the PRT at the end of PS counts as the first semester score. The IST is more of a baseline and something to see where you are. To be honest the plebes were so dazed and confused day 2 of Plebe Summer when they took it, a lot of them sucked. Not a big deal. By the end of Plebe Summer you will pass your PRT. Very very few (honestly I can't remember any who failed) fail at the end of the summer. Learn to push yourself on runs during the summer. To be honest for those that are not great runners the hard part is post plebe summer when no one is making you work out. Make sure to keep it up and make time for running during the academic year. Find a running partner to push you.
     
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    maximum58 New Member

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    What if you are not in great shape on iday? I can do the pushups and situps but can barely pass the run.
     
  5. NavyHoops

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    You will be fine. To be honest when I ran detail probably 25% failed the IST. For most it wasn't due to strength or speed, it was purely shock, exhaustion and dealing with heat/humidity of I Day. Not sure what day they take it now, previously it was the day after I Day. Just go and do your best. They use it as a benchmark. By the end of the summer, you will pass without an issue.
     
  6. Capt MJ

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    Recently, I had a sponsor mid who struggled with the run for PS, plebe year, youngster (sophomore) year. With no academic, conduct or other performance problems, this mid was involuntarily separated at the end of youngster year for failure to pass the run portion of the PRT. The mid spent a lot of valuable time with the remedial squad. Because the mid was unsat in PRT, the mid was not eligible for weekends away, per the company policy. The mid was miserable in this aspect of their USNA life. The ex-mid is now working at Starbucks, living at home and going to community college. Nothing wrong with that, but a dream was shattered because of a time issue on the run. Sadly, many classmates offered to help out and be a "pace car" on practice runs to build confidence, but the mid always had something else to do. There could have been some deep issues inside the mid's mind that set the stage for failure and dismissal, but it was a conscious choice.

    Don't be that mid. Don't get a spotlight on yourself for PRT weaknesses. Go see track coaches at your school, talk to friends on the track team, research online, figure out your problem, whether it's mental, your form or your training plan.

    It's a little late in the day, but you might be able to get a little insight. And get some confidence-builder runs in before you go, so you don't go out too hard at the start of PS and be "that mid" already on chit (med excusal) for shin splints.

    Other posters have good advice - most do pass it by end of summer. The mid I spoke of finally did, but when not supervised, had trouble making standard due to lack of focus in the problem area.

    Believe you can..work at it.. and you will. Good luck!
     
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  7. NavyHoops

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    Capt MJ brings up a great point. Also, I think the hard part is post PS. PS you will work out daily, not an issue. It is very rare for someone to fail the PRT at the end of PS. When the academic year rolls around and you get less sleep, are swamped with school and being yelled at because you don't know your Pro Knowledge, how do you fit in a run and workout? So many kids get prepared for the summer and don't realize it is now upon them as an adult and future officer to plan a workout and keep in shape. No one is going to hold your hand during the academic year. If you are weak runner, know it ahead of time, work on it daily and don't allow yourself to skip workouts. Find a partner to help hold you accountable and train with.
     
  8. future_navy

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    But the actual initial physical test at the beginning of Plebe Summer will not count towards anyone's separation if they cannot pass it?
     
  9. pknguyen44

    pknguyen44 USNA '13, NAPS '09

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    Correct, don't remember if you can actually "fail" it, IST is to place you into different groups for runs during PEP. Have fun with "Round Trips" and "Brave hearts"
     
  10. USNArules

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    So during the first few days there will be an Initial Strength Test? Is this the same as an initial PRT? Meaning is this Max PU in 2', Max SU in 2' and Timed 1.5 mile run? Or is this different? Timed 1 mile run + Max PU and Max SU? Is this done like the CFA, with a few minutes between each test?

    Thanks!
     
  11. NavyHoops

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    Yes it will be either the day after I Day or maybe 2. If I remember right it was only 1 mile and Max PU and SU in 2 minutes. Usually you partner up so there are a few minutes in between. Honestly they use it as a baseline to put you in running groups and identify anyone who is really out of shape and they need to watch. Its not that big of deal, just follow the instructions and try your best. If you are reporting next week, going to be completely honest here... get off the forum, get off the computer and enjoy your last few days. There isn't anything you can do at this point but hydrate, eat your favorite foods and say good byes. You can control very little of PS, just go with it, work hard, help each other out and even have some fun with it. You will screw up, its all about learning from it and regrouping. This will be 45 minutes of your entire 6 weeks and you probably won't even remember taking this by the end.
     
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