Injury before Rday

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  1. amnaok1

    amnaok1 Member

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    A week ago i was running and a few miles in started to be bothered by my knee. I walked home to prevent injury and assumed it was just a pulled muscle or other minor ailment. I rested it for about a week. Yesterday I went running and was unable to make it more than a few hundred feet. I am in good physical conditioning having before been running at least 2 miles every 2-3 days. I am unable to run at all and am having trouble walking. I will be contacting DODMERB and the academy about this in the morning since it is still the weekend.
    I am wondering if deemed unfit for CBT will I be offered a chance to be rolled back into next years class or will I simply be separated. I am torn with the outcome of over 12 years of work and being so close to my dream.
     
  2. tug_boat

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    Before you notify anyone make an appointment with your own personal doc and seek his/her opinion about your injury. Then based on his recommendation go from there. If it looks like you may need surgery, contact admissions. Yes, they will give you an LOA for the next class however, you will need to get another MOC nom.

    This is what I would do if I were in your socks.

    Push Hard, Press Forward
     
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  3. civic29

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    Ice it and ice it some more, you have worked so hard to get to this point. We have 7 days, so do whatever you can to get back with us. Try elliptical, biking, walking, or swimming. Going to the doctor is important but at this point you may as well hold on to what you have earned and try to let it heal. Look up whatever muscle it is specifically that hurts and find a stretch for it and repeat as much as you can through through the week. Use icy hot or massage the spot to ease it up and just keep working for it. But first see a doctor and make sure it's nothing serious. A sports doctor might be the greatest help and you could explain the situation and see what the doctor can do. Good luck and heal fast.
     
  4. amnaok1

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    Thank you all for the replies.
    I have decided that after all these years I refuse to quit. I will go to R day and CBT and tough it out.
    Thank you again and GO ARMY
     
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  5. civic29

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    Is it getting better?
     
  6. tug_boat

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    If you are not a 100 per cent you will be discovered and turned away. If you limp or sit, you'll quickly become a focal point. R-Day is a long day on your feet.

    Push Hard, Press Forward
     
  7. funnyesq

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    I agree that if you are in fact injured, invariably you will be discovered. It is your call and I can totally understand the "nothing ventured, nothing gained" and wanting to report. For all you know, you will make it through CBT and all will be well. Wishing you a lot of luck. In the meantime, do what you can to heal.
     
  8. PhilDavidsonUSAFA

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    They'll probably be ticked off if you report without informing them that there's a problem, and force them to discover it themselves. There's a culture in the military (I'm in the Air Force, but probably holds true for other branches as well) than expects one to self report things up the chain of command and not force someone to find out about something after the fact and remedy it then when it could've been self reported and taken care of ahead of time.
     
  9. funnyesq

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    That makes sense Phil and I agree that perhaps in normal circumstances you should self report. That said, if you had gone through this long and arduous process to get an appointment (with all the competition etc) and had the unfortunate experience the OP had...would you be that quick to say..."oh well, I'm injured WP, can't come?" Maybe he can "tough it out" ...maybe come Monday it will be resolved. I know I've had issues that were resolved in a couple of days that I thought....this is gonna take a long time. Go figure. If it's too much and he will be discovered within the first day or two....he'll be sent back...if not...maybe there is a chance he can get through it. Is it "giving up" to not report? Is it unethical to report knowing that there is a chance he won't be able to do runs etc? Tough call at least IMHO.
     
  10. PhilDavidsonUSAFA

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    It's not a tough call. He should inform them of the problem as soon as possible in this scenario.
     
  11. Pima

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    Disagree. We are not docs.

    I am assuming Phil you are an enlisted member that will be attending USAFA this year. I get your ADAF perspective. I respect your conviction, but again, we are not docs.

    If they go to their primary and are told that this is torn ligaments, than heck yeah...he should inform them the minute he walks out of the office. If he is told, kid you pulled a hamstring, rest for a week, than I see no reason to contact DoDMERB.
    ~ They are not AD and expected to report every fever or sprain to DoDMERB.
     
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  12. PhilDavidsonUSAFA

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    Not enlisted, have never been enlisted. Lol. He's indicating having problems even walking after a week of rest. This doesn't seem to be a minor problem. Reporting to west point with an injury like that is just stupid and shows a serious lapse in judgment and if not judgment common sense.
     
  13. Pima

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    Sorry, I am confused by your posts,

    Please enlighten me how you are IN THE AF, but not enlisted or officer?
     
  14. Dixieland

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    amnaok1, what did the doctor say?
     
  15. buff81

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    He's at the USAFA, I believe.
     
  16. NavyHoops

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    I agree none of us our docs and the assessment should be left up to them. There is a huge difference between being hurt and being injured. Hopefully at this point he has seen a doc. If it is tendinitis or a strain, then hopefully he was able to find a PT that can see him twice a day and aggressively treat it to get the inflammation down and ready to go for R Day. There are tons of things a PT can do to help with this, especially given 7-10 days of aggressive treatment. If he in fact really injured himself with a tear, depending on the doctor's assessment, he would need to contact DoDMERB and go from there. OP, hopefully this has worked itself out and you are able to report with no issues. Good luck.
     
  17. funnyesq

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    As a Civilian, I would, of course, see a doctor if my symptoms were "I can't walk...or within 100 feet of running I have issues." It would, of course, depend on WHAT exactly I'm experiencing...typically I can usually trust when I need to see a doctor and when I need to heal it myself with typical remedies. That said, if I were about to leave for CBT in 10 days...I'm not so sure what I'd "do." I can certainly empathize with the dilemna.

    One thing I wonder for the OP....is whether, in reporting for CBT he will be required to sign some form, under penalty of perjury, that he has not seen a medical professional in the past 30 to ???? days and if he has, for what purpose etc. This might be a tip off to a turn away??? Not sure. But if so, that might be one reason not to do the most obvious i.e. see a doctor. Just wondering if there is such a form. My guess is there might be.
     
  18. Sledge

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    Just saw some pictures from the USAFA's Official Facebook page. Today is their I-day. There was a picture of a basic with a knee brace. That's got to raise an eyebrow or two. Hopefully, he got that all squared away and approved before showing up.
     

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