IP/IW

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  1. Wickler908

    Wickler908 Member

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    Does anyone know if the rumors are true that starting with 2013, firsties can service select IW and IP without going SWO first?
     
  2. jscam87

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    Add a couple more acronyms. I have NO idea what you're talking about. Sounds cool, though...
     
  3. wannabe2013

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    IP- Information Professional: offensive and defensive information ops
    IW- Information Warfare: cryptology, psyops, elctronic warfare etc
     
  4. vollkmc

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    IW - Information Warfare - Crypto work, Looking for STEM Majors with Critical Language Knowledge.

    IP - Information Professional - IT type work, looking for computer science types.

    These are both Restricted Line Communities.

    EDIT: Wannabe beat me to it!
     
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  5. Kero

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    Seems highly unlikely to me, my guess would be they would do it like oceanography, where you go SWO get your qual, however long that takes you, usualy about 1 1/2 years then you would go to your specialty school.
     
  6. aznarkarus

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    Wickler908,

    USNA wants to graduate as many unrestricted line officers as possible, so the most probable way of joining IW or IP is through lateral transfer. Hope this helps.



    -Ark
     
  7. Profmom2

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    Do not see it changing as there is already a SWO - intel option, SWO FA option etc. Earn SWO serve a tour then lateral move. I can only speak to SWO Intel Option: were only 2 openings for the Intel option this year. Need to be really high in OOM to get.
     
  8. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    As a SWO-IP option selectee from USNA, I think it behooves anyone trying to join IP/IW to first become warfare qualified, whether pilot, SWO, or subs. The Fleet exposure and knowledge that you obtain in the minimum tour requirement will be invaluable compared to someone coming into the community without it. Regardless if you are COMMO, EWO/CICO (sometimes an LDO billet), or other billet, you will be required to lead, make decisions, and learn from a "firehose" from day one. Additionally, SWO gets you thinking "big" picture and understanding how everything interfaces together, something that is important if you are going into a service providing community.

    FYI, service selecting SWO IP does not require any lateral transfer board action, but you do not leave the ship until AT LEAST the completion of your first sea tour (SWO = 27 months).

    Also, there was talk at one time that the CNO was considering making the IP community (along with others) URL. I am not sure if that idea was dropped.
     
  9. surfrchck35

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    Can anyone further explain what restricted line means? I am interested in going into Marine Corps intelligence. Is this a possibility through the academy?
     
  10. NavIss58

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    surfrchck35, Unrestricted Line Officers are those who are eligible for command of ships, submarines, aircraft squadrons, fleets, and shore bases such as naval bases and naval air stations. These are officers of the line of the Regular Navy and Naval Reserve who are not restricted in the performance of duty.

    Restricted Line Officers are officers of the line of the Regular Navy and Naval Reserve who are restricted in the performance of duty by having been designated for aviation duty, engineering duty, aerospace engineering duty, or special duty.

    you can read more here http://usmilitary.about.com/od/officerjo2/a/menu.htm
    I think that's a reliable source.
     
  11. USNA'02

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    You can service select SWO-IW or SWO-IP but it doesn't preclude you from "going swo". What it does mean is that you'll do a SWO (surface warfare office) tour, earn your swo pin, and then receive orders to an IW/IP billet w/o having to go through a lateral transfer board.

    I can't speak for IP, but for IW, you'll have to go through a qualification process at your first IW command/billet. It will be similar to earning your SWO pin and highly recommend you don't data dump the EW (electronic warfare) information you've learned while getting your swo pin.

    As an IW officer I know that this is a program being offered with this years class (2010) haven't heard from the IW Community how many billets will be available.
     

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