Is it ok to call admissions to find out how your child stacks up?

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  1. DevilDog

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    I keep reading all these LOA's and invites to CVW. My child has not received anything from the academy in quite some time. Is it ok to call the admissions rep to find out if they are even in the ballgame?
    Could people that have experience with the admissions process please answer. No offense but a lot of the people on here seem to act like experts and I know for a fact that some of the information they give is wrong. Could the BGO's or someone that has first hand knowledge please respond?
    Thank you in advance.
     
  2. popeyesmom

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    I would never call Admissions to find out how my child stacks up. Can you imagine if all parents of applicants called and asked that question? This is your child's application and their future. At this point, and to be honest, you should have already, remove yourself from the application process. As a parent, support and enjoy your son/daughter's senior year of high school. It is hard to not focus on the waiting, but truly, these are precious moments that you can never get back.
     
  3. DevilDog

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    I do not need or want a lecture from you. I don't know if you can read or refuse to read and comprehend, but I asked for people that know the process to respond. Do you understand?
    Also, I don't think it is any of your business how my son and I handle this process. My son is very busy with school and sports. He does not get much of a chance to call anyone during the day. Do you think the admissions reps are there at 7 PM when he gets home from football practice? If so, then I will have him call.
     
  4. Just_A_Mom

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    popeyesmom is correct. She knows the process having lived it.

    It is never okay for a parent to call any college admissions office to "find out if they are even in the ballgame".
    I would be shocked if anyone would even have a meaningful conversation with you.
     
  5. DevilDog

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    You would be? So I guess you better prepare for a shock. One of the other Acadamies spoke with me about and told me he is right in there, at worst, Prep school. I hope the shock is not too difficult to take.
     
  6. Just_A_Mom

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    Then why are you asking the question? Congratulations.
    Guess what? All Candidates who are not qualified for an appointment are considered for Prep school. Did they tell you that?
    Go ahead and call, call today and call tomorrow. When he gets an A on his math test or scores a goal in soccer; then call again.
    Better yet - call the BGO. Call every week. When he has his interview make sure you answer the questions for him. Make sure you go to the Nomination interview as well. Follow your son right in and make yourself a part of the conversation. After the Nomination interview make sure you call your MOC's office frequently until they make the announcements.
    You will convey to everyone that you have the time and energy and desire to follow up and your son does not.

    You asked if it was appropriate. It is not. This is the candidate's journey, not yours.
     
  7. popeyesmom

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    Dear DevilDog.....do you think that perhaps they told you what you wanted to hear? I personally believe you are sabatoging your child's chances by inquiring. Use the advice if you want. If not, best wishes to you.
     
  8. DevilDog

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    Why is it people that are not even asked to respond feel as if they need to throw in their two cents?

    I called the other academy after I asked the question. I called the other academy to make sure everything is in, while speaking with his admissions rep, I asked the question.
    Yes, I do know they are all elligible for the prep school. Please put me on ignore or don't even respond to this. I was not speaking to you anyway.
     
  9. DevilDog

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    Once again, I asked for someone that knows the process to respond. Not some yenta from Virginia with nothing to do but hang out on a message board.
     
  10. popeyesmom

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    Sir, we "hang out on the message board" as a volunteer. Having been through the Admissions process with sons/daughters attending USNA, we DO have experience that may be valuable. So, in essence, you were speaking to us. I will, however, ignore your questions and hope the best for you. Good day to you.
     
  11. Just_A_Mom

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    You don't have to be rude. You can be rude to me all day, doesn't bother me at all - I am used to it on this forum. :wink:
    But your rudeness to popeyesmom is inexcusable. She is just the sweetest Mom and she went through this process just like you are going through it. She knows the process. She was not rude to you she was just trying to help you. Stop with the bullying already.
     
  12. LineInTheSand

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    Have your son or daughter call if you'd like just to "check in" and see how the process is going, and if there is anything he/she can/should do. That's not too painful and still keeps the offspring involved with the process.

    There is no need to go silent. USNA seems to be very engaging in the whole application process (at least they were when i applied).
     
  13. DevilDog

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    OK
     
  14. popeyesmom

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    That is very good advice. My son called his Admissions Officer about 2 weeks before the deadline to be sure that all of his paperwork was received and in order. He did not ask an opinion on it though. After that his Admissions Officer contacted him and had a brief conversation with them because his application was going before the board and they wanted to be able to represent his application well. It wasn't until sometime in October that he received an LOA. And then in November he received communication from his Admissions Officer inviting him to participate in CVW. He replied requesting to change the date of that CVW to January.
     
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    Also, my son was not a recruited athlete and he did attend NASS. He only applied to USNA and did not indicate any interest in the other SA's.
     
  16. Pima

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    Devildog,

    you are walking a fine line by the level you are illustrating. The reality is not one poster here is an RD. RDs do not sit on the board when it comes to your WCS, nor do BGOs.

    The worst thing IMHO that you are doing is calling for your child. It is okay to call if there is a due date, your child is in school, goes straight to a sport event or work, but otherwise, you do harm. What they see is a stage mother who is more into it, then the candidate.

    Also, at this point of time the admissions RD does not have everyone's file on the slate, and that is if the slate has been submitted. SO you are asking for an answer that is based on incomplete facts. He could look competitive, but in 2 weeks when 3 other candidates submit their final package, he drops from being competitive to mid pack.

    This is an incredibly long ride.

    People also need to understand Prep...great gpa, great SAT/ACT will not be a prep candidate. It is usually held for a candidate that has everything, but something in their PAR makes them fall short. They offer it to get their PAR up, be it gpa or SAT, but they know if that candidate has that opportunity they would be an ideal candidate.

    Your child will not be offered prep because of a CFA or lack of EC's, it is academic. Not saying that these prep cadets are not smart, they just want to give them a better edge for academics, knowing how hard the 4 dig yr is. Prep is not a back up for those on a waiting list. Prep actually comes out all yr long. SO please do not walk in thinking that they were number 1201 on a class list of 1200 and be accepted to prep, it just is not the case.

    I have yet in my time on this board to hear that somebody was taken from prep to an SA. However, I have read many posts of kids offered an appointment days before BCT, being removed from the NWL
     
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  17. GoNavyMom

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    DevilDog,

    I think you were pretty rude. The app process seems to be getting to you. I hope you aren't taking it out on your child the same way you seem to be taking it out on the people on this forum.

    GoNavyMom
     
  18. Luigi59

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    If you know they are wrong why not post the correct information, instead of being so arrogant and alienating those who might have wanted to help you?

    I recommend you call Admissions every day, tell them you demand to know the answers you seek. Don't take "no" for an answer, after all, you are entitled to everything you seek.
     
  19. DevilDog

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    Thank you everyone for your input. I am sorry for being crass with some of the posters. I did get the answer I was seeking, and will take it under advisement. I find it even more rude for people on here to make character judgements about a person they have never met.
    Once again, I do regret for being crass.
     
  20. Pima

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    Okay, I think we all vented and they got the point.

    Devil you do need to realize that we all understand the frustration that at times we feel or have felt. You just need to understand that if we all lived in the same state we would host a forums holiday party. Only those on this site understand the ride that you are going through. However, people were trying to tell you to take a deep breath and if you didn't you were causing more harm. Nobody, was trying to insult, they were trying to say what they have seen and learned from experience.

    The ball is in your court, you can opt to take it as ganging up, or accept the fact that although none of us that responded are BGOs or ALOs, have walked a head of you in this process.

    Luigi is right, don't slap someone in the face when they give you something you did not want to hear. I recall the yr of our DS, as a military wife of an officer this was all new territory. Just listen to them, they will be the ones toasting your child everytime they get a nom, they will also be the ones reminding you that all you need is 1. We are a support system.
     
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