Jobs for USMMA

Discussion in 'Merchant Marine Academy - USMMA' started by LAP, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. LAP

    LAP Member

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    What are some of the jobs that USMMA graduates find to meet their obligations? Shore based as well as at sea. My son will be applying to all of the acadamy's for the incoming class of 2012. Initially he was not interested in the USMMA but has recently started showing more interest. I think he likes the idea of having more options upon graduation.
     
  2. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

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    Surprised nobody has responded yet:

    There are almost an endless list of possibilities, so I'll start and someone else can continue:

    Sea:
    1)Ocean going ships with a union
    2)Ocean going ships with a company
    3)Ocean going ships with Military Sealift Command
    4)Tug and Barges
    5)Oil platform ships (eg Direct Positioning)
    6)Great Lakes shipping (haven't heard of many going this route though)
    7)Inland water shipping (rivers)
    8)Cruise ships in Hawaii
    9)State Ferry Systems
    10)...

    Shore:
    1)Active duty military (any branch)
    2)Shipyards
    3)Terminal operations
    4)Logistics for any number of companies
    5)Ship Surveying
    6)Maritime Law
    7)...
     
  3. cmakin

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    I didn't respond since I am not sure which shore side jobs meet the obligations these days. Besides surveying (which I have done and still do), there is also the marine/energy insurance business. I am an adjuster and surveyor, primarily for energy (but energy is very closely related to marine-long story). Other alumni work as brokers and underwriters, too.

    Oh, and maybe Oil Platform Ships is the wrong terminology. Mobile Offshore Drilling Units (MODU) would probably be better. That includes semi submersibles (that can be either Dynamically Positioned or anchored-or even self propelled to an extent), drill ships (Dynamically positioned). Jack ups, too; however those would have more jobs for engineers than for mates. Semi submersibles also have positions for Ballast Control Officers (BCO).
     
  4. sprog

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    I think there is only one cruise ship now. I'm not sure how long NCL will keep that one going, either. I'm no expert on this, but I think they felt that cruising the Hawaiian Islands would be a more profitable enterprise than what has panned out. Obviously, to cruise between the islands, the ship has to be US-flagged. This means it costs more to operate. There were originally three US-flagged ships out there, but NCL wasn't able to keep the fleet up. Two of the ships were transferred to the foreign-flagged fleet. Pride of America was designed for Hawaii, and it is still going for now.

    Rather unfortunate, as the US used to have a much stronger market in passenger ships. I guess it justs costs too much to compete, and Hawaii is a tough market for cruising. I mean, if you are appealing to the budget-minded cruiser (as NCL and the mass market lines do), I think most people will choose to go to the Caribbean, which is closer and cheaper on an airfare basis than going out to Hawaii. All the ships in the Caribbean are foreign-flagged, and so are the ones in the other more popular cruise destinations like Alaska and the Med. Alaska routes get around the Jones Act by having the voyage originate in Vancouver. I still think it's cheaper to cruise Hawaii than it is to stay there in a hotel, but I'm not sure there has been nearly as much interest as was hoped. There might be enough to keep the one ship going, though (we can hope). Just my opinion on the matter.
     
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  5. LAP

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    What is ship surveying?

    Money is not typically the right reason to do something but like it or not it is a factor. What might be a typical or average salary for a new KP grad as well as one with 10 years experience?

    In the current job market how are KP grads doing in finding jobs?
    Thanks.
     
  6. cmakin

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    Like many things, ship surveying can be defined in a few different ways. I can only speak for myself, so here it goes.

    I started as a Marine Surveyor with the American Bureau of Shipping, which is an independent Class Society. As a surveyor with the Bureau, vessels are examined during construction to verify compliance with approved plans. Vessels are also examined after construction. These exams fall into different categories. Annual Surveys, Dry Docking Surveys (every 2 1/2 years) and Special Surveys (every 5 years). Vital machinery components are also examined every 2 1/2 or 5 years and subject to separate surveys, such as tailshafts and boilers. Class Society surveyors are also authorized to act on behalf of the flag states that register the vessels to carry out inspections and issue trading certificates for the various SOLAS and MARPOL conventions (safety and polluton prevention) as well as Load Line conventions.

    Class Surveyors also carry out damage surveys subsequent to incidents in order to determine the repairs necessary to return the vessel to a satisfactory Class condition.


    Independent Surveyors can report to either Vessel Owners, Charterers or Underwriters. An independent surveyor will carry out damage surveys much like a Class Surveyor, however the extent of the repairs recommended would then be to return the Vessel to the condition prior to the incident, and may often include items not included in a Class Survey. Indepenent surveyors also carry out on-hire (or charter) and off hire (or charter) surveys to determine if there was any damage to a vessel while it was in the hands of someone other than the owner. There are also condition surveys, pre-purchase surveys, valuation surveys, etc.

    Marine surveyors can also carry out cargo surveys relating to the condition, stowage and discharge if various break bulk, bulk and liquid cargoes.

    Most of the Class Society Surveyors are engineers. Some hull surveyors are from the deck department and most cargo surveyors are from the deck department.

    I am leaving out quite a bit, but that is a start.
     
  7. deepdraft1

    deepdraft1 Master, Ocean Steam or Motor Vessels, unlimited

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    The most prominent organization in the U.S. for these types of surveys is the National Cargo Bureau. For more information on the Bureau and the services that they provide see the following link.
    http://www.natcargo.org/
    Every NCB surveyor I have ever dealt with was from the deck department and nearly all have had extensive experience on their license.[FONT=&quot]
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