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While our arrival dates where the same, our departure dates were not. He was after your time.
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[FONT="]Back at the old School Ship when my class found out we had passed Thirds we all gathered at a nearby watering hole, put a few kegs on the bar and in true sailor fashion got gloriously, rip roaring, "Bob's a dying on deck" drunk.. No bell ringing for us, but I guess you guys were always more refined (but not by much).. Oh well "different ships, different long splices" as they say.. [/FONT]
Well, there WAS a bit more action down at Hammerman's that week. . . . . oh, and in some rooms, too . . or so I have been told. . .
The supposed reason for the empty tubes was to prevent any shennanigans by the graduating class (like changing the timing of the automatic sprinklers and the like). Of course that didn't prevent alumni from hiring a plane towed banner over Tomb field with a derrogatory comment about the superintendent. . . .
It happens...happens to those taking securities, CPA, legal/bar and medical exams as well. But the first time pass rate at Kings Point is exceeding high.
Kings Point can be rightfully and justifiably proup of its first time pass rate on the Coast Guard exam.
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Other 20% passed?
Just wondering as today is graduation day -- does anyone know if all the rest of the students did end up passing their licensing exams? If so, did they also get to ring the bell? Also -- if you don't pass, can you graduate later on once you do pass them all? Just looking toward next year when our DS graduates.
Just wondering as today is graduation day -- does anyone know if all the rest of the students did end up passing their licensing exams? If so, did they also get to ring the bell? Also -- if you don't pass, can you graduate later on once you do pass them all? Just looking toward next year when our DS graduates.
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i know you used to be able to. You would continue to re-take the exams after graduation until you passed and you would get your diploma and commission at that point. They would still let you walk at graduation and you would just get an empty tube with no diploma or commission. I understand that now they don't let you walk at graduation if you haven't passed.
I can see this is one problem of taking the license exam so late in the academic year. In the old days, there were a few more opportunities for retakes before graduation. That said, there were always a couple of who stayed behind for retakes.
I don't know if they are letting those whose only lack is passing license walk and get empty tubes or not. They used to, but seem to be getting stricter about that practice every year.
Our DD was a deferred graduate last year. She failed the license prep class and they would not even let her try to take the exam. We attended graduation weekend, though the extended family did not. She was able to participate in everything she chose to except the actual graduation ceremony. She was part of the change of command and jumped into the pool with everyone else. We attended the dinner cruise and June Ball. She sat in the audience with us and watched her friends and classmates walk. There will never be a graduation ceremony for her.
The good news is that she passed the prep course (distance ed while living at home) and was able to take her license exam in Baltimore in October. She sailed through the exam and probably had a much less stressful exam experience than her peers. KP mailed her diploma and commission to her and her father swore her in (retired Army officer). Since she passed her license, she has not been in the New York area. She's been too busy working. But she fully intends to go back at the first opportunity and ring the bell. So if one day you see a young woman with bright purple or blue hair banging away on the bell, that will be her. And the message is to never give up!
One did not pass and did not walk today. As I understand, that person will receive the diploma upon passing. And yes, the ones who passed last week did get to ring the bell.
Clearly you've never taken license exams. You trying going 7 for 7 in anything with a required score of atleast 70% and some test 90% and get back to me on how it went. As for your offhand slight of "premier", our passing rates were higher than the other state academies rates that we saw and we didn't have to use our cell phones on the tests like other school students often do.
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With the number of times I heard disenrolled KP students say "I'll just finish up at (insert state maritime academy here), no big deal" I think the tag Premier is appropriate.
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WAY COOL STORY KPMUM2012.......AND VERY INSPIRING. She deserves her hell of a bell ringing! And she should get photos of her doing it too!
I don't know if they are letting those whose only lack is passing license walk and get empty tubes or not. They used to, but seem to be getting stricter about that practice every year.
Our DD was a deferred graduate last year. She failed the license prep class and they would not even let her try to take the exam. We attended graduation weekend, though the extended family did not. She was able to participate in everything she chose to except the actual graduation ceremony. She was part of the change of command and jumped into the pool with everyone else. We attended the dinner cruise and June Ball. She sat in the audience with us and watched her friends and classmates walk. There will never be a graduation ceremony for her.
The good news is that she passed the prep course (distance ed while living at home) and was able to take her license exam in Baltimore in October. She sailed through the exam and probably had a much less stressful exam experience than her peers. KP mailed her diploma and commission to her and her father swore her in (retired Army officer). Since she passed her license, she has not been in the New York area. She's been too busy working. But she fully intends to go back at the first opportunity and ring the bell. So if one day you see a young woman with bright purple or blue hair banging away on the bell, that will be her. And the message is to never give up!
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From the Mass Maritime Academy website:
"This year’s Deck candidates passed a total of 283 out of a possible 294 modules (for a Third Mate license) the first time – an overall pass rate of 96.3%! 2013 Engineering grads passed a total of 456 out of a possible 476 (for a Third Assistant Engineer’s license) on their first attempt - for an overall pass rate of 95.8%."
Not quite the same statistics being posted by KP vs Massachusetts Maritime. KP13 was talking about those students who went 7 for 7. Massachusetts Maritime is posting modules passed. As noted in earlier posts unless you pass all 7 modules you don't receive your license.
Massachusetts Maritime lists on their webpage that for Deck there were 283 out of 294 modules passed. That equates to 42 students taking the license; for Engine it was 456 out of 476 which is 68 students taking license. At the most extreme end of the percent scale, up to 11 Deck and 22 Engine students could have failed one of the seven modules; which would be 73.8% and 67.6% going 7 for 7. However, it probably was higher since it would be unlikely that students who failed a module only failed one.
If you also look at Massachusetts Maritime's website you'll see that they graduated 332 members of the Class of 2013. http://www.maritime.edu/index.cfm?pg=5772
This means that only 110 of 332 students are referenced under Mass Maritime's license exam article; which is only 33% of the class. What happened to the other 67%? I'm not sure, there is no mention of them. At KP a condition of successful graduation is passing the Coast Guard license and although not everyone went 7 for 7, the 203 students in the Class of 2013 all had to sit for license. And as of last Friday, I'm aware of 202 that have passed all 7 license modules.
So overall, it appears that KP13 is correct when he states that Kings Point has a much higher pass rate than the state maritime academies.
Massachusetts Maritime lists on their webpage that for Deck there were 283 out of 294 modules passed. That equates to 42 students taking the license; for Engine it was 456 out of 476 which is 68 students taking license. At the most extreme end of the percent scale, up to 11 Deck and 22 Engine students could have failed one of the seven modules; which would be 73.8% and 67.6% going 7 for 7. However, it probably was higher since it would be unlikely that students who failed a module only failed one.
If you also look at Massachusetts Maritime's website you'll see that they graduated 332 members of the Class of 2013. http://www.maritime.edu/index.cfm?pg=5772
This means that only 110 of 332 students are referenced under Mass Maritime's license exam article; which is only 33% of the class. What happened to the other 67%? I'm not sure, there is no mention of them. At KP a condition of successful graduation is passing the Coast Guard license and although not everyone went 7 for 7, the 203 students in the Class of 2013 all had to sit for license. And as of last Friday, I'm aware of 202 that have passed all 7 license modules.
So overall, it appears that KP13 is correct when he states that Kings Point has a much higher pass rate than the state maritime academies.
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Not all majors are license track. The state schools graduate a large number of non-licensed graduates every year.