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  1. cadet85

    cadet85 Member

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    So in talking to one of my FFR and hearing what some people had to say about it, my LOE is very good. My main FFR said that he had never even actually met any candidate that received a LOE as early as I did (Early September). He said he had heard of a few but never had a candidate in his area receive one that early. How likely is it that I will receive an appointment or an offer of admission based on this LOE?
     
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    I know a couple of kids here who received LOEs. LOEs enable you to have an overnight visit. The funny thing is, most kids in my class who got an infamous "LOE" didn't even know that it was significant! So yes, receiving an LOE is very good. Continue on performing well. An LOE is exactly that, a Letter of Encouragement. They want you to remain interested and complete your file, so clearly the admissions folks here and interested in you!
     
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    LOE...

    Last year rumor had said about 150 to 200 LOEs were issued. How many recieved an appointment? Only WP admission knows. But it is valued, so work hard, stay out of trouble and secure that nomination.

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  4. cadet85

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    Has anybody ever heard of someone receiving a LOE and not an appointment?
     
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    Yes, but there can be many reasons for that:

    1. They don't become medically qualified
    2. They don't get a nomination (often because their interest is in another SA)
    3. They don't win a spot - usually a stronger candidate emerges in their district and that person comes in.

    It's not an LOA, so if you have an LOE, don't rest on your laurels. You've still got to go out there and win your appointment.
     
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    Well I have a Pres. nomination, and I just sent in my congressional and senator nomination packets in today. I am also already medically qualified.
     
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    Well, then you've done all you can. I would say your chances are good, but as was stated earlier an LOE is not an LOA. There is no guarantee. You wait patiently at this point and do your interviews, or whatever, with the MOCs. Stranger things have happened in life than someone with an LOE not receiving an appointment.
     
  8. cadet85

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    Also, on the admissions website, it says they will be offering appointments as early as November (next month) fro the class of 2018. Is there a good chance a person who is fully qualified and has a LOE will be offered an appointment early on in the game?
     
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    Appointments....

    Last year was the first year without rolling admissions. Predicting patterns was very difficult compared to past years, but I imagine this year will be similar. The majority of the offers were given after march in a series of big groups. There were exception a few were early and a few late.

    This is something that it out of your control. Focus on building you WCS the best you can. Get the highest scores possible on your ACT/SAT.

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    Patience

    Cadet85

    My now plebe received an early LOE, was 3Qd by admissions and was
    named "principal" nom in his congressional district. He still did not receive
    his "official" offer of appointment until the first group went out in February.
    There are definitely exceptions, but most early offers are made to recruited
    athletes, active duty and those that had previously accepted and were
    injured before R-day. Patience produces character and there are ALWAYS
    areas to improve your WCS....keep at it. :smile:
     
  11. Not too sharp

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    Last year DS recvd LOE early and was 3Qd and a Sen nomination by Nov 1st. (although DS was not the P-nom).

    After LOTS of "you're good, just be patient" feedback, DS recvd QNS letter on his birthday (ugh). He was crushed but forged ahead with Plan B.

    Just remember, nothing is done until it is done.
     
  12. cadet85

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    I don't quite understand how you can receive a LOE and then not get selected. Seems like an error. Maybe they couldn't work out the nomination stuff?! It doesn't make sense to say "you are a top candidate, just keep improving and you will most likely be offered an appointment" and then absolutely nothing.
     
  13. cadet85

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    Well let me edit that last one... I see how you can not get selected, but with a file that is fully qualified with nominations, you would think the LOE would go ahead and push the appointment through. Maybe 3Q'd with a nomination and some file problems (such as problems with the law, lower grades, poor leadership) would get the QNS. idk.. I have never heard of that circumstance, but thanks for the feedback @Not too sharp.
     
  14. tug_boat

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    @Not to sharp

    This is the first time I've seen a applicant with a LOE not selected. I'm sorry about the QNS, especially on his birthday.

    My son was in a similar situation, and understand the emotional toll it can take.

    Push Hard, Press Forward
     
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    Remember, selection into any SA is a matter of following the acceptance guidelines established by Congressional Law. The LOE is a tool used at the discretion of West Point as a way to try to keep highly qualified candidates interested, and by giving them an overnight visit, a chance to determine if it is right for them quickly in the event that they are offered. It cannot trump the selection criteria established by law; therefore, it is possible to receive an LOE and not an appointment. Of course the goal is for that not to happen, and they try to set the criteria for sending LOEs as such that it won't, but it is not 100% accurate.
     
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    Good Info, Thanks!
     

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