Mandatory wearing of ASU's to class.

[jbm02]

Interesting Jcleppe. I could have sworn when Bullet jumped with the 82nd our neighbors wore flight suits. Granted that was when dinosaurs roamed the earth so maybe they changed it, or it is early on set of dementia that made think that.

I would think those uniforms are more cumbersome than a flight suit.

For folks with older cadets, you might want to do what we did. When our DS became a AS200 we bought him a 2nd set of pants and shirts for Xmas. The following xmas we purchased the mess dress(AFROTC wear these to military formals). And this way by the time he commissioned he basically had everything and the cost wasn't he than also handed back all of the ROTC uniforms and able to take the BAS money and run with it instead of keeping the four year old uniforms he got as a 100.

What a great idea.

I was a "guest lecturer" at a local college's ROTC class last night and someone forgot to inform me that uniform of day was ASU; I appeared in ACUs. Wish I read this post before today - I would have called to check!

 

[paradoxer]

Hilarious!!!!!!!!!!

My son's AROTC battalion required cadets to wear ACUs one day a week - it may have been the same day as labs, though those were sometimes on weekends.

Regarding laundry and dry cleaning, he made an amazing time- and money-saving discovery which he used his MS1 and MS2 years: namely, periodic, liberal applications of anti-bacterial febreze.

I don't recall him mentioning any dating until his junior year.

Wondering what the showering schedule was.....

 

[kinnem]

My son's AROTC battalion required cadets to wear ACUs one day a week - it may have been the same day as labs, though those were sometimes on weekends.

Regarding laundry and dry cleaning, he made an amazing time- and money-saving discovery which he used his MS1 and MS2 years: namely, periodic, liberal applications of anti-bacterial febreze.

I don't recall him mentioning any dating until his junior year.

Dad is always the last to know!

 

[scoutpilot]

Army cadets at The Citadel selected to branch aviation have been trying to get them for the longest time, their argument being that Air Force and until recently Navy midshipmen could wear them. The new commandant seems to want to promote ROTC alot more, so this may become a thing if the Army OK's it......

Considering the Army removed the flight suit from the inventory about 8 years ago, it's gonna be pretty hard to get that approved. If they in fact mean actual flight suits.

A2CUs are a CIF item which must be DX'd every 6 months, so don't expect those either. Plus there's a regs issue, per 670-1.

6–3. Occasions for wear
a. All-purpose wear. Soldiers may wear the aircrew uniform on duty when prescribed by the commander for flight operations. The aircrew uniform is not intended for wear as an all-purpose uniform when other uniforms are more appropriate.

Chapter 6 Aircrew Uniform

6–1. Classification
a. The Army Aircrew Combat Uniform (A2CU) in the UCP is a daily work, utility, and field uniform for aircrew members (see figs 6–1 and 6–2). The A2CU in the OCP is designed to wear in deployed areas of operation only. b. The Fire Resistant Environmental Ensemble (FREE) in the UCP is designed to be worn with the prescribed duty uniform to provide aviators and combat vehicle crewman with modular, flame resistant protection (see para 6–11). The
FREE in the OCP is designed to wear in deployed areas of operation only.
Section I
Army Aircrew Combat Uniform

6–2. Composition
The A2CU consists of:
a. Coat, A2CU (see para 6–8).
b. Trousers, A2CU (see para 6–9).
c. Undershirt, foliage green or tan (100% cotton or flame-resistant material) (see para 20–28e).
d. Undergarments (see para 20–28).
e. Belt, rigger (must meet flash/flame criteria for aircrew members performing aircrew duties) (see para 20–2a). f. Socks, tan, green, or black, tan; cushion sole (see para 20–24a).
g. Boots, combat, tan leather (see para 20–3a).
h. Headgear (see para 4–10).

The more you know.

I have a real issue with a cadet thinking they're entitled to wear an aircrew uniform simply for having branched aviation. Officers who've been commissioned into the branch don't even get to wear them until they report to the flight line, after completing SERE(C) and academic requirements.

 

[sheriff3]

ASU guidelines for AROTC Cadets

I thought this might be helpful for some. I believe it is up to date.

http://www.unl.edu/armyrotc/HandbookChapters/Chapter4.pdf

 

[Full Metal Bulldog]

Considering the Army removed the flight suit from the inventory about 8 years ago, it's gonna be pretty hard to get that approved. If they in fact mean actual flight suits.

A2CUs are a CIF item which must be DX'd every 6 months, so don't expect those either. Plus there's a regs issue, per 670-1.





The more you know.

I have a real issue with a cadet thinking they're entitled to wear an aircrew uniform simply for having branched aviation. Officers who've been commissioned into the branch don't even get to wear them until they report to the flight line, after completing SERE(C) and academic requirements.

Well, you learn something new every day. I don't think it will be authorized, considering this and how controversial it is with AFROTC. You wear your branch insignia above the breast pocket of the Citadel version of Class B's after you receive your branch anyway, you'd think Aviation insignia there would create enough of an ego boost.....

 

[clarksonarmy]

I thought this might be helpful for some. I believe it is up to date.

http://www.unl.edu/armyrotc/HandbookChapters/Chapter4.pdf

That handbook is out of date. We don't have greens anymore.

 

[kellen0176]

The school I'm at started requiring Cadets with ASUs to wear their class B's and those who do not have them are in business casual clothes as previously stated. Really going to stick out like a sore thumb in an MS4 class without ASUs...

 

[sheriff3]

Originally Posted by sheriff3
I thought this might be helpful for some. I believe it is up to date.

http://www.unl.edu/armyrotc/Handbook...s/Chapter4.pdf

That handbook is out of date. We don't have greens anymore

Is the placement of the ribbons, rank etc... still the same? If not can you provide a resource? Thanks.

 

[sheriff3]

kellen0176, The school I'm at started requiring Cadets with ASUs to wear their class B's and those who do not have them are in business casual clothes as previously stated. Really going to stick out like a sore thumb in an MS4 class without ASUs...

Do you really have MS4 that do not have a full uniform compliment? Is that the norm for a unit?

 

[kellen0176]

Do you really have MS4 that do not have a full uniform compliment? Is that the norm for a unit?[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure if it's the "norm", but I know that unless you are prior service, ARNG, USAR, or have previously attended a mil ball, you don't have them in our battalion. I also contracted late, but I know I'm not the only contracted cadet who does not have them.

 

[Jcleppe]

I'm not sure if it's the "norm", but I know that unless you are prior service, ARNG, USAR, or have previously attended a mil ball, you don't have them in our battalion. I also contracted late, but I know I'm not the only contracted cadet who does not have them.

Are you part of a large Battalion?

I'm really surprised that not every MS4 has their ASU's

Just a tip, you'll soon be purchasing your own set of ASU's, you'll discover that they are not cheap by a long run. Make sure the battalion gives you a pair to wear if they require it, try not to wear the ones you buy. After your write that check you'll realize why. Your new jacket won't work any way because it's not like the ROTC ASU's, just don't use your own pants if you can help it, just keep it in a garment bag until graduation.

 

[Akrogan]

In my AFROTC detachment all cadets we only wear service dress to one lead lab a month, and then afterwards we can wear any combination of blues for the rest of the day. Otherwise every other day is ABUs or Flight suit. We only have to wear the ABUs to AFROTC class on days other than lead lab, and don't have to wear them during the rest of the day. Army wears ACUs exclusively and is never in ASUs.

 

[Jcc123]

Army wears ACUs exclusively and is never in ASUs.

Well, they will be soon.

 

[Jcleppe]

Resistance is futile.

 

[clarksonarmy]

Is the placement of the ribbons, rank etc... still the same? If not can you provide a resource? Thanks.

AR 670-1 or CCR 670-1. ribbons and badges really haven't changed. no patches on the sleeves is the biggest difference.

 

[Pima]

Jcleppe....so true, but it is so much fun in resisting!

I really do wonder how long this will be in place. My guess is just long enough for every unit to have the uniforms. The reason why, is the next guy/gal in charge of AROTC Command will say this is not realistic for detachments that are insanely large or in an area like clarkson, so let's go back to the way it was before.

Or maybe they will go back because if I recall reading on here that the digital camo is being revamped and they can save money by handing them all over to ROTC instead of absorbing the cost of giving every cadet a set of ASUs as MSIs.
~ If I am correct typically when they phase out a uniform they do it over years, but the military clothing stores will quickly change over the stock, hence leaving a large surplus of the old uniforms.

 

[armydaughter]

Jcleppe....so true, but it is so much fun in resisting!

I really do wonder how long this will be in place. My guess is just long enough for every unit to have the uniforms. The reason why, is the next guy/gal in charge of AROTC Command will say this is not realistic for detachments that are insanely large or in an area like clarkson, so let's go back to the way it was before.

Or maybe they will go back because if I recall reading on here that the digital camo is being revamped and they can save money by handing them all over to ROTC instead of absorbing the cost of giving every cadet a set of ASUs as MSIs.
~ If I am correct typically when they phase out a uniform they do it over years, but the military clothing stores will quickly change over the stock, hence leaving a large surplus of the old uniforms.

The thing is that "before" is relative. Back in olden times (when I was in college and in AROTC) we wore our greens for all ROTC functions. We only wore fatigues (yes, they were called that way back then) for FTX and time on the range. We wore greens for lab too which was mostly D&C.

 

[JMS]

For folks with older cadets, you might want to do what we did. When our DS became a AS200 we bought him a 2nd set of pants and shirts for Xmas. The following xmas we purchased the mess dress(AFROTC wear these to military formals). And this way by the time he commissioned he basically had everything and the cost wasn't he than also handed back all of the ROTC uniforms and able to take the BAS money and run with it instead of keeping the four year old uniforms he got as a 100.

I like this idea, too. Just where does one go to find uniform items? I suppose this is all done on-line now, with the help of a local tailor.

 

[Thompson]

I like this idea, too. Just where does one go to find uniform items? I suppose this is all done on-line now, with the help of a local tailor.

Pretty much; there are a lot of online military clothing stores nowadays (excluding the PX) - althought not sure about for ASU's. I know a lot of the online ones sell utility uniforms (ie: ACUs, ABUs, MultiCam etc)