I just completed my AFROTC scholarship application and I put that I never tried marijuana. But I have, and I told my doctor this a couple days ago. Will they look at my medical records and find out? Or is there a way to edit my application and put "yes" and explain that I tried it once?
Marijuana Use AFROTC?
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Consider the scenario five years from now... you re getting a background check for a security clearance necessary for a job you find desirable.
Investigator #1 asks if you ever used marijuana or any other illegal drugs. You say either 'no', or 'yes'.
Investigator #2 then asks, 'well, which is it?' As he points up the discrepancy in your prior statements. You find yourself staring at your shoe laces.
Now what? Looking perfect on your application was nice. Honesty and integrity look better.
Investigator #1 asks if you ever used marijuana or any other illegal drugs. You say either 'no', or 'yes'.
Investigator #2 then asks, 'well, which is it?' As he points up the discrepancy in your prior statements. You find yourself staring at your shoe laces.
Now what? Looking perfect on your application was nice. Honesty and integrity look better.
These questions come up periodically. Posters know they messed up and may not want to be preached at. Hopefully his parents will do that. He came here for advice on how best to fix his mistake. Getting advice on how not to repeat mistakes is important as well
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Is this your family doctor or the DoDMERB doctor? I really wouldn't worry about it. Just be honest from here on out, including the number of times. They know kids are not angels, and especially now when in certain states it is no longer illegal.
What they are looking at is a possible addiction issue. There is a difference from trying it twice to smoking it every month.
What they are looking at is a possible addiction issue. There is a difference from trying it twice to smoking it every month.
Guilt shows the truth I suppose. If it comes up let them know you made a mistake. At least you didn't lie on your security clearance paperwork. I suggest you get your story straight now, get ahead of the game not behind it. That mistake on your security clearance could end it all for you.
I would contact the POC at the 866 number on the website. They would be able to help you update your application. The earlier in the process the better. The website also says you can withdraw your application at any time. Given that, you may be able to withdraw your initial application and start over. Hopefully, one of these methods will work.
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If you get a scholarship under the pretense of not doing drugs and then later admit that you did -- even on your first day of AFROTC (you will fill out the form again), there's a high likelihood that you could be kicked out (at the very least, you'll lose the scholarship). My general advice it to keep a record of pretty much everything in your life -- especially paperwork like this -- and make sure there is a consistent and truthful timeline of events.
Could you lose the scholarship? Yes. But that's better than losing your commissioning and having to pay it back when they find out later. Call them up.
Disclaimer: Based on the number of incidents, your det commander could determine that he still doesn't want to admit you. By no means should you take that as any permission to lie, but you need to understand that you're in a difficult situation and nothing that we say here can guarantee anything other than that if they find out you lied after you're in the program, you're done.
Could you lose the scholarship? Yes. But that's better than losing your commissioning and having to pay it back when they find out later. Call them up.
Disclaimer: Based on the number of incidents, your det commander could determine that he still doesn't want to admit you. By no means should you take that as any permission to lie, but you need to understand that you're in a difficult situation and nothing that we say here can guarantee anything other than that if they find out you lied after you're in the program, you're done.
You should have been honest from the beginning. One of the core values is integrity first and if you are a liar the Air Force doesn't need you. An example of how this works out is: there was a guy about to commission in my Det that said he hadn't smoked marijuana either and had. When he was being interviewed for his security clearance apparently it was one of the questions asked and he answered it honestly this time. Because he lied before they booted him.
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I think that the OP left the building a long time ago. If you take a gander they have 1 post, this and this one alone from 2+ months ago.
That is the problem of pulling up an old thread many times. If you are trying to give guidance and the thread is months old it may have died because the poster left.
Do not me get wrong I think Jbow was giving sound advice about coming clean as soon as possible, just I think the OP has moved on, thus no assistance to them. This forum every year has at least one thread regarding being disenrolled due to marijuana use. It is important to know that each commissioning source (air Force, Army, Navy, Marines) all have a magic number that they will not waive after. AFROTC impo and the years here seem to be the most rigid. None of them that I know of will typically acknowledge the exact true number where you go from experimental to recreational. I have seen as low as 3 times for AFROTC.
~ Caveat it may not necessarily been the #3, but like Jbow stated they changed their numbers along the way. This one person originally said none on the scholarship. 1x on the DoDMERB. Came back after SFT and before contracting to a POC informed the CoC that it was actually 3 x. The CoC submitted them for a waiver, but AFROTC decided to dis-enroll them that semester. They never made it to the security clearance.
OBTW, yes, billyb, I think calling them a liar was a little over the top, but it is an internet forum and we cannot distinguish intonation. Sometimes it can be taken harsher than what was intended by the poster.
That is the problem of pulling up an old thread many times. If you are trying to give guidance and the thread is months old it may have died because the poster left.
Do not me get wrong I think Jbow was giving sound advice about coming clean as soon as possible, just I think the OP has moved on, thus no assistance to them. This forum every year has at least one thread regarding being disenrolled due to marijuana use. It is important to know that each commissioning source (air Force, Army, Navy, Marines) all have a magic number that they will not waive after. AFROTC impo and the years here seem to be the most rigid. None of them that I know of will typically acknowledge the exact true number where you go from experimental to recreational. I have seen as low as 3 times for AFROTC.
~ Caveat it may not necessarily been the #3, but like Jbow stated they changed their numbers along the way. This one person originally said none on the scholarship. 1x on the DoDMERB. Came back after SFT and before contracting to a POC informed the CoC that it was actually 3 x. The CoC submitted them for a waiver, but AFROTC decided to dis-enroll them that semester. They never made it to the security clearance.
OBTW, yes, billyb, I think calling them a liar was a little over the top, but it is an internet forum and we cannot distinguish intonation. Sometimes it can be taken harsher than what was intended by the poster.