Discussion in 'Academy/Military News' started by WAMom68, May 12, 2009.
Those generals have a tough job in Afghanistan. McKiernan never had enough boots on the ground.
Best of luck to Generals McCrystal and Rodriguez. Weren't they classmates at West Point, class of 1976?
Here is an interesting article at Time.com:
I found this particularly interesting -
Inlinelast - You could be right - McKiernan didn't have enough boots on the ground as Afghanistan has been largely ignored to concentrate on Iraq. It appears there are differences in leadership that Gates and Petraeus wanted to correct. The firing was indeed publically humiliating for McKiernan. It does send the message that the current administration is ready to get serious about Afghanistan.
Funny you should mention that McChrystal and Rodrigues were classmates at West Point. In fact, it occured to me last night that our wars are being lead by West Pointers:
Petraeus - Commander of US Central Command; Class of 1974
Odierno - Commanding General Multi-National Force Iraq, Class of 1976
McChrystal - selected for Commander; International Security Assistance Force and Commander, USFOR-A; Class of 1976
Rodriguez - selected for Deputy Commander, USFOR-A; Class of 1976
Almost looks like General Petraeus is the "big brother", it also makes me further question if Tom Ricks knew what he was talking about. I guess writing a piece about why we should continue to support West Point and the other Service Academies would be boring.
Someone pointed out all the USMA grads leading our wars to Tom Ricks.
An interesting Blog from Michael Yon on the relief of Gen McKiernan.
It's interesting - It is not all that clear why McKiernan was relieved- he had been on the ground about 10 months I think - did ask for significantly more troops than the Administration provided. That doesn't really seem like a cause for relief though- I suspect that it is more related to President Karzai's comments the other day about friendly casualties undermining the civilian loyalty. Don't guess we're gonna know for sure. LTG McChrystal is a special ops guy who commanded JSOC so this may be an indicator that Gen Petreaous is looking at a less conventional approach despite the increase in conventional units in country.
This thread caught my eye and I felt it was important to note that GEN David Mckiernan was perhaps one of the most respected armor officers and general officers on active duty throughout his years of service. Military officers and the public at large had a deep sense of sympathy for the general because they all knew that he deserved much better than this. The move was all political. He was clearly a victim of the Bush/Cheney Administration and a victim ignorance with the new administration. Thankfully General Mckiernan enjoyed full military honors in his retirement ceremony. The Chief of Staff of the Army and the Secretary of Defense were both present to list his great accomplishments.
Another article by Paul Farnan - Defending General David Mckiernan
Defending Gen. McKiernan
The appointment of GEN McChrystal as the commander of Afghanistan is perhaps one of the more controversial moves that this administration could have made...especially with his highly dark and questionable record. On another note, I don't think it is amazing that West Point grads now dominate the Wars in the Middle East either. As CENTCOM commander, I'm sure GEN Petraeus had some say in who got appointed to these positions. If he is playing the "big brother" role with his classmates, then there is something seriously wrong since sources of commissioning shouldn't matter in today's Army. I hope this is not the case.
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