Mid suspected of smuggling pot

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  1. Just_A_Mom

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    http://www.hometownannapolis.com/news/top/2009/06/16-12/Mid-suspected-of-smuggling-pot.html

    This could be the plot for an NCIS episode.
     
  2. usna2012mom

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    Maybe they pulled him over because he was a mid returning from Mexico. When our son was in San Diego a few weeks ago, they were told to NOT go to Mexico. I have heard on the news too, that sailors and marines stationed down there were told to not go to Mexico.
     
  3. rotorhd

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    "He's got Leavenworth ahead of him now"

    It sounds like this mid is guilty as charged...so why not let the UCMJ system play out and send him where he needs to go.

    Voicing of pre-trial opinions and statements, such as Mr. Gittins' do not contribute to a fair and impartial hearing. In fact, it would seem to me (definitely not an attorney!) that the defense could use such a statement in their favor.
     
  4. America's Finest

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    Without a trial? I'm glad you don't run the government. :biggrin:
     
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    That does sound like a good NCIS episode!
     
  6. Just_A_Mom

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    yep. Maybe for the new spin off which is based out of LA. Of course, since the mid is from USNA, Gibbs would have to fly out to SD and lead the investigation.
    Thinking about it - if it had been the plot of a show last season I probably would have laughed at the absurdity of it. :eek:

    From the Navy Times:
    http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/06/navy_midshipman_detained_061609/


    BTW - the attorney in the article was not making any presumption of guilt or innocence - he was just stating what he would be looking at if convicted. read it again.
     
  7. Gcokeley

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    Is it wrong that I own every season of NCIS.....

    and almost every season of JAG for that matter...they will come out with 9 and 10 eventually....
     
  8. ChrisCooke

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    Smuggling such a large amount of marijuana over the border is a serious felony. If this midshipman is convicted, he will certainly spend a number of years in prison. Even if this midshipman is found innocent, his Navy career is likely over. This is a serious matter. Regardless of the outcome, I am sad for the midshipman, his family, and those who care about the reputation of our armed forces.
     
  9. flieger83

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    You know...I'm NOT a "Navy man..." although I still have my acceptance to the USNA class of 1983...

    But there was ONE poem I have loved since my youth and actually have framed..."The Laws of the Navy" by Admiral Hopwood, RN. He wrote it in 1896 while a Captain and it is VERY wise in its entirety. But there are two paragraphs that fit this situation...

    "...Uncharted the rocks that surround thee,
    Take heed that the channels thou learn,
    Lest thy name serve to buoy for another
    That shoal the "Court-Martial Return".

    Though a Harveyised belt may protect her
    The ship bears the scar on her side;'
    'Tis well if the Court should acquit thee --
    But 'twere best had'st thou never been tried. "

    I'm afraid this young man, has seen the end of his naval service. Regardless of the courts decision...if I may borrow from Admiral Hopwood:

    " But 'twere best had'st thou never been tried. "

    Steve
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  10. America's Finest

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    Sad but true...image is everything these days.
     
  11. flieger83

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    It's been that way since at least 25 June 1979...the day I raised my right hand and was sworn in as an AF cadet.

    Still serving...

    Steve
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  12. rotorhd

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    America's Finest - When you take basic military law at West Point, you will learn that "trial by courts martial" is a basic tenet of the UCMJ. This individual will definitely receive a trial.

    BTW - Congratulations on your appt!:smile:
     
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    Thanks, and I was reffering to the guy I quoted labelling him as guilty before the trial. I know court martial involves a trial. :wink:
     
  14. Just_A_Mom

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    I hope you went back and re-read the article. They guy you quoted didn't label him as guilty. he was simply an expert in military law that the journalist called up to ask the hypothetical question what would happen to him if he was found guilty.
     
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    Exactly 30 years from when you did that, I'll be doing the same thing...
     
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    I think JAG should be sent to San Diego... I miss that show.....
     
  17. America's Finest

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    RotorHD said "It sounds like this mid is guilty as charged". That's what I was talking about.
     
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    Why do you say "Not Looking Good"? In my opinion; which doesn't mean a whole lot; the TRUTH is ALWAYS the best thing. And "IF" this midshipman did in fact smuggle 100+ pounds of pot and break into someone's else at gun point and stole $12,000 and drugs; then I WANT to see him get the max sentence. It also shows "GOOD" for the Navy for not putting up with such crap and/or trying to cover it up to save face. I think it "Looks Good". There are times when people; young and old; screw up. And when you screw up, sometimes catching a break and some leniency is appropriate. Smuggling 100+ pounds of pot, B&E, burglary, assault, etc... are NOT SCREW UPs. Those are intentional. So "IF" he is found guilty; and "IF" he can not come up with some legitimate excuse like his Mom is dying of cancer and he did this because he needed the money for an operation; (Or something similar); then the best thing the Navy can do is maintain it's long standing level of integrity and honor, and prosecute to the extent of the law. Then those paying the bills (The American Tax Payers) will know that their military has honor and does not cover up the truth when trash like this midshipman (Assuming he's found guilty) tries to infiltrate our military.
     
  20. jbrown

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    To let the UCMJ play out, would include an arraignment, investigation, and eventually a trial.
     

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