Military Science Degree?

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  1. ROTC2015

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    Upon completing a school's ROTC program, are you awarded a minor in military science? I know this is true at Truman State in Missouri. Is it true for all schools?
     
  2. Pima

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    Not at our DS's school for AFROTC. He will have a dual major in govt and politics, minor in international relations, and a core in military history. Not because of ROTC, but because as a govt, politics, international his electives allowed him to take military history classes which gave him a core concentration.
     
  3. ROTC2015

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    Thank you, Pima! In order to claim a minor in military science, I have to take military history courses?
     
  4. Pima

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    I don't know, it will be up to your college and what they offer regarding degrees, but as far as our DS, ROTC classes did not count towards his major or minor. He just happened to test out of a lot of classes so had more opportunities available to him for higher course levels.

    I think he basically tested out of every mandated freshman courses, EXCEPT ECON, and that was because they didn't offer AP ECON at his HS.
     
  5. gojack

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    Every school is different, some accept lots of MS classes and some accept little or nothing.

    My DS is at UA, there you can use MS classes + two additional classes to earn a minor in "Civic Engagement and Leadership" - The university requires a major and a minor, so its very popular minor w/cadets.
     
  6. Jcleppe

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    A couple tips.

    Check with your advisor for your Major, ask what MS classes will count toward your degree. Some schools will count them and some will not.

    At some schools the MS classes are all rolled into one class with 1 credit. Some split the classes out and count credits in each class.

    I can let you know how my son's school works:

    MS1 1 credit
    MS Lab 1 credit
    PT 1 credit
    Ranger Challenge 1 credit
    Color Guard 1 credit

    If you take all the above you earn 5 credits

    I have 2 son's at the same school, one is a History major, all his 300 and 400 level MS classes count toward his Related Fields. This helped a lot in respect to his course load.

    My younger son is a Political Science major, only the 300 and 400 MS classes count toward his related fields, not the lab or PT. Still helps though.

    At their school if you complete all the MS classes you receive a Minor in Military Science. They both do need to take on approved military history class.

    These are good questions to ask during your interview, another question to ask is if the school grades on - and + or just straight A,B,C,D.

    Since GPA is so important knowing how the classes are structured and the grading is done is a good idea, it can make a difference in the end.

    My younger son was having a hard time deciding between 2 schools, the final decision came down to how the grading and credits were handled.

    The biggest thing is to be well informed before you make a decision, ask questions of each school's advisor for your major and of the person you have your interview with.

    Good luck.
     
  7. dunninla

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    Speaking only for Baylor University --

    MS Classes are valued at 24 Hours/Units over four years (8 hours Basic Course, 16 hours Advanced Course). They count as ELECTIVE hours toward the BS degree requirement of 124 semester hours.

    There is no degree called Military Science at Baylor, either major or minor.

    For a BS in Neuroscience, after the BS degree requirements for Chemistry (8), Physics (8), Calculus (6), Biology (12), Neuroscience itself (33), and the University requirements for English (12), Foreign Language (10), Religion (6), Social Sciences (9), after using the 24 units of Military Science, there are not ANY hours left for "free" electives unless the student wants to take hours beyond the 124 needed to graduate.

    Actually it is a fortunate situation that all 24 Military Science hours *do* count toward the 124 hour total needed to graduate. I've heard that at some schools not all the MS hours are applicable as elective hours.
     
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  8. MNDad2015

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    Guess every school is different. For DS, he has an MS curriculum to follow and maintain a >=3.0 GPA in his MS classes to stay on scholarship. MS minor is the result, and because he's a CE major will take >4 years to graduate. At his PMS interview they advised him as such, and said they'll get him the $s for the extra time. At orientation, his academic advisor confirmed that getting things done in 4 years would not be possible unless he added summer school to his plan.
     
  9. Pima

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    Curiosity why do you ask? Are you asking because you believe it will allow you to lighten your academic load during your collegiate career?

    Remember schools have specific credit hours required for FT, and that means you would have to plan this properly not to fall under those hours.

    AFROTC scholarship also required specific credit hours and on top of that for HSSP (HS scholarship recipients), they are required to take 12 credit hours in foreign language. DS has friends that are actually minoring in foreign language because they were already forced into taking these classes by AFROTC, not by the school.
     
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    At Marist College you can receive 3 credits in Business Management for each MS Class during Junior and Senior year, for a total of 12 credits. You will also receive 3 credits in History for the Military History Course. We are working on getting a leadership minor but the details have not been worked out yet.
     

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