MROOTC fitness test question

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  1. marjasse

    marjasse Member

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    My son is taking the fitness test tomorrow and we would like any advice about it. Also football ended later than we thought so he is not as prepared as he would like. Is it possible to retake it as it is probably too late to reschedule? The test is at 9am and they open at 9am
     
  2. USMCGrunt

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    I am not exactly clear on what you are asking. But at this time I recommend hydration and sleep.

    Regarding the test, he will need to dig deep and do the best he can. No excuses. Leave it all on the field.

    Good luck!
     
  3. marjasse

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    sorry I meant what to expect at the test. What are minimum crunches and pullups and what is a good run time. Can you also redo the exam
     
  4. USMCGrunt

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    I am not sure what MROOTC is but most standards are published on line somewhere
     
  5. kinnem

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    From looking at your past posts your son is applying for NROTC Marine Option. If I am incorrect you can ignore the rest of this.

    All your questions are answered here: http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marines/l/blfitmale.htm

    He certainly needs to beat the minimums to be considered for a scholarship. Just my guess but at the very least a 225 would be needed and he'd be far better with 250 or better. Of course a lot depends on the other aspects of his application but physical fitness is the hallmark of a Marine. That's why they are the only ROTC that administers the physical fitness test themselves as part of the application. He'll also need to show proper form or it won't count.

    My son was able to redo his PFT and update his scores prior to the second board. YMMV.
     
  6. USMCGrunt

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    Thanks Kinnem. I definitely missed the mark with the OP. I should have dug deeper to figure it out.
     
  7. marjasse

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    thank you for all your help
     
  8. kinnem

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    Well Grunt, the misspelling/typo piqued my curiosity! :rolleyes: And your advice to rest and hydrate was certainly more important than anything I pointed him to! :smile:

    I always wonder/am reluctant what to tell folks they need to score. Guess it depends on other aspects and of course higher is always better. If it were me awarding them I'd like to see at least 250-260 to award a scholarship but that's really just my opinion based on some experience with DS who had 260+ and wasn't awarded a high school scholarship (but then he had other flaws). What do you think?
     
  9. Pima

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    Just my 0.0198864 cents, I take the position that they use for the SAs. They post only the max, never the min., even though they know what the min is to pass or fail.


    I would also say to me the key word in kinnem's post is something to take heed of when doing the PFT.

    PROPER FORM

    If the form is wrong, it is just wasting energy and may hurt their score for the next portion, so on and so forth.
     
  10. USMCGrunt

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    Well... first off, I am not going to say your DS had any flaws!

    I maintain that too many people put too high a factor on the physical fitness test. It is important but I can't believe it is any more important than leadership, schoolwork etc. They are all equally important. I want to believe that the selection board looks at the entire person when making the decision.

    Note I said it was just as important as the other portions - not less so.

    Based on what I have seen over the last 3 years along with discussions with my son (current NROTC MO student) I would say that the average scholarship winner is north of 250 points in the application PFT. I am sure there are examples of winners with lower (not much) and certainly higher.

    I might note that my son reports that with less and less scholarship winners reporting to his unit each year, the average score for these freshman has been going up. Makes sense.

    As you state, the higher the better for sure. That goes for GPA, ACT/SAT scores, leadership roles, etc.

    Pima points to a great way of thinking about it. Focus on 300 points (the max) rather than a minimum.
     
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    Good input folks! Thanks!

    Edit: And perhaps "flaw" was a poor choice of words. Maybe "areas of weakness in his resume" would have been more appropriate.
     
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    How about "Opportunities for Improvement" rather than "areas of weakness?" :smile:
     
  13. marjasse

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    Sorry for the typo and thank you for all the advice.
    My son had an appt. today and went to take the test. However there was a big backlog and they had to reschedule it until Monday. He is a 3 sport athlete who is in great shape. He has also run 2 marathons but just wanted a few more days to prepare now that football is over. The good news is now he has 5 days of no school and plenty of time to prepare.
     
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    Marjasse: please update us after his test.

    Regarding his test on Monday - all my same advice applies: Rest and hydration.

    All things being equal I would focus on pull ups. Max is 20 with no time limit (each is worth 5 points). Then crunches -1 point per, max is 100 in 2 minutes. Then go out and do the best you can on the run. If he is just coming off football, he probably hasn't been running a lot of miles. Max is 3 miles in 18 minutes.

    Best of luck!
     
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    Remember...it is "overall". When my son went for his PFT, there was a young man who ran like the wind but he only did 3 pullups. Also, my son barely scooted by with a 225 on his first PFT because football camp had just started and he had hurt his shoulder. He went a few weeks later and scored 269. Not as good as he should have done, but much better on the redo. good luck.
     
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    Even better! :smile:
     
  17. marjasse

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    Thank you for all the support. The test did not go well. He did 15/20 pullups, 73/100 crunches and a run time of 23 minutes.
    The person who did the test is really trying to talk him into the MECP if he does not get the scholarship but neither of us sees this as a good option for him.
     
  18. USMCGrunt

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    Marjasse: I compute his score as a 218/300. This is a second class score (first class is 225+)

    I think I heard that he can retest and update his score before the next board.

    He could compete for a side load scholarship in school. There are other commissioning programs to consider also. There is the PLC and the OCC courses.

    If he wants a college education and commission as an officer I recommend that you explore those paths before you even consider the MECEP or DEP routes.
     
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    Thank you. We will check these out. They told him he could not retake the test.
     
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