My Chances of Receiving the NROTC Scholarship

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  1. benrzora

    benrzora Member

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    Hello, as you probably can tell I am new to this forum but am already excited to gather helpful information about NROTC. Recently I applied for the the National NROTC scholarship but was not chosen from the last board meeting and am wondering if I have the credentials fit for being in NROTC.

    Here are my stats.

    Age: 18

    Height: 6'3"

    Weight:150 lb.

    High School GPA Weighted and Unweighted (7 Honors Classes): 3.95

    College Credits (Washington State Running Start Program, Community College): 45 Credits, 3.57 GPA, expected to graduate high school with 92 college credits

    Highest Verb SAT or ACT equivalent: 550

    Highest Math SAT or ACT equivalent: 640

    NROTC Applicant Fitness Assessment (AFA):
    Crunches:95
    Pushups: 50
    1 Mile Run: 4:52

    Officer Interview: Stated "I was the highest he ever scored in the interview."

    College Choices:
    Point Loma Nazarene University
    Washington State University
    University of Colorado
    Oregon State University
    Arizona State University

    Athletics:
    XC: 4 Varsity letters, State 2014, Team Captain 2014
    Wrestling: 3 Varsity Letters
    Track: 3 Varsity letters
    Club Mountain Biking Team: 2012

    Extra Curricular Activities:
    National Honor Society: 2013, 2014
    Jazz Band: 2011-2015, Lead Trumpet 2014-2015
    Wind Ensemble: 2011-2015, First Chair Trumpet 2014-2015
    North County Honor Band: Selected for 2015, Second Chair Trumpet
    Brass Choir: 2012, 2013

    Community Service:
    Homeless Shelter: 5 hours a month 2011-2015
    Church Mission Trip: 60 hours a year, 2011-2014
    Middle School Church Small Group Leader (13 middle schoolers): 2013-2015, (6 hours a week)

    Work Experience:
    Wood Cutting Business: 40+ cords of Firewood cut per year 2011-2015
    Summer Job (Corporate Park): 40 hours a week, 2013 Summer, 2014 Summer

    Questions and Concerns:

    Similar to most Applicants, currently I am growing anxious as more and more waves pass without selection into NROTC. Unfortunately, I cannot apply for the AROTC Nation Scholarship because of too many college credits. If not granted the NROTC scholarship I will apply for the AROTC Campus Based scholarship at University of Idaho. I know my test aren't exceptional but I am scheduled to take the ACT one last time this December and am going to study extremely hard to raise my scores. My main concern is how much do I need to to raise my scores the make my application more competitive, or even if my credentials are enough for the Scholarship.

    Thanks for your help!

    Ben
     
  2. Pima

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    If they even accept only half of your college credits you are considered non-eligible for the high school scholarship.

    There is a detail in it that says you can have 30 or less college credits for the HSSP. You would need to apply for the ICSP.
     
  3. kinnem

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    Agree with Pima at least to some degree. You'll be spending 4 years in college to complete NROTC so graduating with all the credit (assuming its all accepted by the college you go to (which is highly unlikely), buys you essentially nothing with respect to NROTC. Your SAT scores are a little weak. DS had scores above 1300 and did not receive a Marine option 4 year scholarship. The third thing is that (unless I missed it) you did not mention your planned major. The planned major is critical in awarding NROTC scholarships (at least for Navy Options). 85% of scholarship winners will be STEM majors.
     
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  4. Pima

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    I also agree those scores, especially super scored are on the low side for AFROTC. The upshot for NROTC is your school selection list is a player.

    Candidates need to remember a large majority of ROTC applicants as plan A don't apply to an SA as plan B. Whereas, that is not true for SA candidates, ROTC is usually their plan B.

    Now look at USNA class profile. Their avg scores for the SAT are over 1300.

    Additionally, at least for AFROTC they look at the school profile. In all of my years here I have never seen a kid graduate high school with 50 credits, let alone 90. In essence, that would make you a junior in college if they accept all of those credits.
    ~ Why go this route of NROTC and just not graduate college in two or two and half years, than go OTS?
    ~~ Chances are that the colleges you are applying to are going to take maybe 30 credits, and they will most likely be only electives, because they are a business. They have their own regulations, and work the system to keep you there.
    ~~~ It is a very sneaky trick that most colleges employ. They will say that these courses are equivalent to freshmen placement, but nothing more. They than will say for your major you need to take this prerequisite course, but it is only offered spring semester. Thus, as a freshmen you can't take that course for your degree requirements
     
  5. benrzora

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    The NROTC officer in my area stated I just had to have less than 45 credits before I applied. My cousin was excepted into AFROTC at University of Washington with over 90 credits and the military allowed him through the scholarship to double major.
     
  6. benrzora

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    Sorry about not mentioning my planned major. I plan on majoring in Biochemistry.
     
  7. Pima

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    Pull back for a second.

    1.For AFROTC to commission you need to be in the program for no less than 2 1/2 years. It is a year in the program for field training selection. 3 semesters as a POC(upper classman)

    2. The point is there is the HSSP and ICSP. Yes, you can get a scholarship, but it is following regs. Did your cousin get an HSSP, or an ICSP?

    3. Recruiters jobs are not really about going ROTC or an SA, but enlisting. Not saying they aren't a good recruiter. Saying, ask them to show you the reg that says 45 credits.
    ~ Every year something gets tweaked regarding ROTC, it may be the new reg, but at least for last year the forums were filled with candidates asking I have 33 credits does that mean I am ineligible?

    Point is, investigate.
     
  8. terp1984

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    I think your stats look very good except the SAT. If you could pull that math to a 700 and bump the verbal a bit I think it would do the job. You just never know, some applicants with lesser stats get in the SA's and ROTC"s and some with stronger get turned down. With regard to the college credits, can you just not use them or use just for placement. Best of luck.
     
  9. USMAROTCFamily

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    Your major would be tier 2 which makes it more difficult to receive a scholarship than a tier 1 major. Your college selection has no bearing on if you are awarded a scholarship. They choose winners first, then assign to a school. You haven't listed much in the way of leadership positions/experience above, which is an important part of your application. Regarding test scores/stats, here is information that somebody previously reported for NROTC scholarship awardees from 2012 ( I haven't seen anything more recent than this):
    National 2012 Selection Profile for 4 year Scholarship Midshipmen
    Average SAT 1304
    Math SAT 659
    Verbal SAT 645
    High School Class Rank:
    Top 10% in Class Rank 62%
    Top 20% in Class Rank 83%
    JROTC 31%
    Military Dependent 28%
    Technical Majors 92%
    Average GPA 3.94
     
  10. trabi_skoda

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    USMAROTCFamily,

    Oddly enough, your numbers give DS and me a bit more hope than we had earlier. He's applying tier 3, but if the numbers hold, then he just has to be at the top of the 8%.

    His SATs are 1600
    GPA is 4.0
    Captain of the wrestling team.
    Co-founder of the high school's model U.N.

    He won't beat out an engineer, but he's probably competitive for the few that are non-technical.
     

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