My passion for the Environment

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  1. Alexandranevada

    Alexandranevada New Member

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    Hi, if anyone has any info I would be thankful

    I have a passion for science and environmental issues. I am an environmental studies major and love it! I continue to ask what sort of jobs I can do in that field, AFROTC cadre usually has good information on a lot of things but cadre told me "not a lot!"
    I was thinking I would go into JAG after I have spent time working because getting educational delay is difficult at the time and I don't want the debt now. I know there are fields with this I just don't know what to call them.

    Any job regulatory, testing, programs, data collection

    PS environmental engineers need an engineering degree I will have a BA in Env. Studies and a BS in Public Admin.

    Thank you so much!
     
  2. Pima

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    I agree with the cadre. That is just not a field the AF places an emphasis on from a mission perspective. My assumption is CE would be the closest I think the jobs you are thinking about are more on the contractor side. Think like aero engineers. Many cadets enter thinking they will be designing the next airframe, when in reality to do that they need to be working for Lockheed. Even on the AF side as an O1, they are pushing paper, not in the thick of the design. Why? Because the people that are talking to Lockheed are at the Pentagon and have 15 years of flying under the belt. Bullet is one of those guys and nobody in his office is under the rank of Major up for Lt.Col. he is the civilian counterpart.
    ~ Just saying this is probably why they are saying not a lot because they know the system and with every year the AF is contracting out more and more. Your desire vto ragulatory/testing basically says to me that the AF does that from upon high by a defense contractor and then it drips down the base. You would be told here is what they want us to do...now go do it. I.E. CO2 monitors must be in every room that is larger than xsqft. Make sure every office has one!

    If you have not investigated going JAG, you should.FYI even if wait two years, the chances of getting a law school slot to become a JAG is insanely low. Basically, you would have a higher chance of getting an F22 out of UPT. The reason why is that if you wait the two years, they will pay for the degree and guarantee you will be a JAG attorney. Your job will be to attend law school. The other paths, such as you doing it at night using TA will not guarantee you a transfer into JAG upon passing the bar.

    I am curious what year are you? Have you gone to SFT? If not, than I would worry about that since, their big push right now is having cadets go rated. Since your degree is considered a tech major, and you don't sign the rated paperwork, than they are selecting you to go into a tech field. Which could mean that once ADAF they are not going to release you for Law school, thus JAG will be off the table right off the bat.
     
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  3. zrxkuma

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    If you are looking to go civilian the environmental jobs are more available. Typically within the DoD, the environmental field is filled using civil servants. If that is a route you're looking to go, with your degree you would qualify as a 1301 series, physical scientist or 0028 series, environmental protection specialist. At least within the navy, those are the series (other than env engineers) that would get you those jobs.
     
  4. Alexandranevada

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    Thank you so much for the infomation! I have not gone to FT yet my years got a little messy,
    Started as a sophmore intended on spending 5 years so I was a 100
    Now I am 250 (sophmore who didn't make it) and it will be my 4th year in school I intend to extend my time in school by getting a second degree in Public Admin and spend a total of 6 years in school.

    I don't know what a technical degree is mine is a BA and the public admin will be a BS. Also I must ask what is VTO?
     
  5. Pima

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    I am not positive, but I would assume you are classified as non tech. TECH would be STEM,

    I am a little confused. Did you go up for SFT and not get selected? If so, unless things have changed that would make you a 500. 250s as far as I always thought are cadets that enter their sophomore year for the first time. However it is so rare that they don't disenroll them when not picked for SFT I could be 1000% wrong and they may now combine them with the 250s.

    If you were passed over last year, my concern if I was you would be getting an EA slot. In the ADAF that would be comparable to being promoted Above Promotion Zone(APZ). It is very uncommon. I am not trying to be Debbie Downer, but just saying that the big hurdle in front of you is not what can I do in the AF, but will I get an EA slot as a non-tech, non-rated cadet? Have you discussed with the cadre what your chances are going to be for EA?
    ~ Will they rank you at least in the top 10% of the cadets? If my assumption is correct that you are APZ and did not sign on for the rated field last year, you need that for a chance of getting SFT. That and:
    ~ CGPA above 3.4, because right now your declared major is a BA.
    ~ What is your AFOQT score?
    ~~ They should know what the avg score was for those selected, at least at your school. If you are APZ than follow up with what is needed for APZs. They may not know that one, but at least that will give you a tell on where you need to be.
    ~ What is your PFT score?

    Realize the reason why 200s are rarely given the option of not being disenrolled is because they do not have a higher selection rate a year later. There are limited slots for SFT and it comes down to do they give it to a cadet that was passed over with the exact same stats as the cadet that is only going up for the first time? That is exactly what your CoC will be contemplating when he rack and stacks all of you come Feb.
    ~ Some CoCs will feel you got rooked and should have been selected so they will place you at the very top. Some will feel you had your chance and now they have to support those that didn't because next year they could be in the same position of supporting a passed over cadet, and that will go on until the cycle is broken.

    VTO was a spelling error it should have been go.
     

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