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Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. People get a grip.
It is easy to be accepted to USNA. Simply be the #1 candidate in your Congressman's district. If you are good enough for that, then you win. hook, line and sinker. None of that has changed.

Then again...... any 17 year old (or their parents) who are so arrogant to expect the United States Navy to bow at their feet and automatically offer them a place in the Navy's premier officer development institution simply because they got a high SAT score; probably does not have the humilty required to succeed there. After all, the goal at USNA is to develop LEADERS. Service Academies are not for everyone.
Good luck to all!
 
It is simply that easy. Be the best in your Congressional District or the best pick from your US Senator and *ding, ding, ding* you win.

What if all the applicants checked off Hispanic & African American on their applications? That would quickly help the Navy achieve it's #1 priority and eliminate a two track admissions policy.

No need to lie. You parents of high school juniors, here is another perfectly legal option. Move.
Yep. Pack up your candidate, family, personal belongings and establish a residence in one of those *under-represented* Congressional Districts. The list is out there somewhere. Best candidate wins.
 
ARMYNAVY -

With all due respect, I noticed that your son also did not get accepted into the USMA's SLS - Do you have similar feelings about West Point regarding this matter?
 
Then again...... any 17 year old (or their parents) who are so arrogant to expect the United States Navy to bow at their feet and automatically offer them a place in the Navy's premier officer development institution simply because they got a high SAT score; probably does not have the humilty required to succeed there. After all, the goal at USNA is to develop LEADERS. Service Academies are not for everyone.

I agree.
 
I'm sorry that some people could get so discouraged over a SS rejection letter. I could understand that, but they must realize that the process for SS is completely different from the actual admissions process. Don't let SS rejection letters discourage you from continuing on in the actual admissions process.

"Brick walls are there for a reason. They let us prove how badly we want things." - Randy Pausch; that was also quoted somewhere else in the forums too!

To the people who say, "Oh they didn't accept me, I must not have what they're looking for"

If you were labeled to be a competitive candidate eligible to continue in admissions, then right there you have something they're looking for. If you happened to not be considered competitive because of low test scores or something, but you work hard to improve and be considered competitive, then there's something else they're looking for!

Remember that not everyone who attends an SA got accepted into their summer seminar program. Roughly 60% of current mids did not attend NASS. Imagine if those 60% dropped out because of the NASS TWE!

Don't give up the ship!
 
No process is perfect unfortunately, and life is not fair quite a bit. Sometimes a more qualified candidate does not get in due to being in an over represented district or other factors a SA looks at. I don't always agree with these factors but they are there. As many has pointed out, this is for Summer Seminar. This is a relatively minor setback, I can only imagine those at one of the SA's face far more difficult challenges and must overcome them...and many of them don't seem to be logical or fair. Upper classmen can be a bit unfair and unreasonable...as can my bosses at work by the way, but we all have to deal with it.

The playing field is not level...is it fair that one candidate has the resources to attend a private school with low teacher to student ratio, can play select club sports and get special training, take the standardized tests multiple times with the assistance of paying for a tutoring program geared towards specifically raising these scores. Has latest technology at home to help with school work and other projects. Another candidate of lesser means without these advantages may on "paper" have less impressive gpa, test scores, etc. And will candidate have the means to pay seminar and travel fees to one or more seminars to learn more and get an opportunity to make a personal impression? Maybe not.

Which candidate will ultimately be the more successful? Hard to project and the interview process assists here, but the superior candidate "on paper" may not. The inspirational thread of a boy thrown into essentially a homeless situation is a very good story to look at. Has very impressive qualifications but I am certain there are some better that may not get in.

My candidate has means and advantages some do not I am sure, but not everything. I am not apologizing for having these advantages, but know it helps. Will not be able to take any prep courses for example and test scores may not be as high. Will try to be as competitive as possible but realizes there is much competition (not worrying whether it is 99.99% fair) and may not make it. We will all be disappointed and will endeavor not to blame anyone or the system, but hope for the best for those selected. After all, they will be responsible for protecting this great country.
 
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Must not be too easy. Otherwise why would the Navy need a "two track" system for admissions.

USNA has a system of admissions that is multi-faceted. The characterization that it consists of "two tracks" is simplistic and false. The system has many "tracks".

"the Navy" has a voluntary system of admission. This raises a completely different set of concerns for our nation, but I digress.
 
Very interesting thread. Note to all NASS attendees and TWE's, the appointment competition is incredible and trying to figure out all the admission angles for each is impossible. As the months move closer to next years decision process you will see many many awesome 3 Q'ed w/ noms candidates on this site who do not receive the BFE. I recall thinking last that wont be us, after all my daughter has the grades, test scores, leadership, athletics and everyone said she was a lock etc. True, but all the 2500 or so 3Q'ed w/noms candidates have the same or better credentials. All you can do is complete all requirements ontime/early, get a nomination and submit your best app possible. Please consider your plan B and C plans equally important as USNA. Plan B and C may not be required, however for many of us alternate plans turned into gold after privately thinking ....no way will we need plan B.

2015 decision time will be here sooner than you think. Good luck and don't forget to enjoy your senior year!!!!!
 
..all the 2500 or so 3Q'ed w/noms candidates have the same or better credentials.
It would seem that CDR Salamander disagrees with your opinion and he was part of the USNA admissions program.
 
It would seem that CDR Salamander disagrees with your opinion and he was part of the USNA admissions program.

No, he was not.
He was just quoting Bruce *I never have anything good to say about the Naval Academy* Fleming.
 
Okay folks, I warned you. We are not going to have the diversity in admissions debate here. If you want to continue the discussion, please take it to the "Off Topic" or "Military News" boards. Perfectly fine to discuss it there, not here.
 
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