National Pool

ahaven7

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I was reading in the nominations FAQ, and it talks about candidates who do not get slated off of their congressional nomination move to a national pool? I am confused, what exactly does this mean? Thanks for the help.
 
When you receive a nomination you will be evaluated and compared to the other 9 candidates on the slate, one will get an appointment. If you don't get that appointment you are still in the mix, because you then the national pool and compete nationally for any remaining appointment slots. (MOC appts, Pres appts, ROTC appts, etc do not add up to the class size required to fill a class). You are competing against everyone that didn't get a nomination, and everyone that got a nomination but was not at the top of their MOCs slate.
 
I'm pretty sure that only people with a nomination go onto the NWL, but you're competing against nationally against folks from all slates who did not get an appointment.
 
When you receive a nomination you will be evaluated and compared to the other 9 candidates on the slate, one will get an appointment. If you don't get that appointment you are still in the mix, because you then the national pool and compete nationally for any remaining appointment slots. (MOC appts, Pres appts, ROTC appts, etc do not add up to the class size required to fill a class). You are competing against everyone that didn't get a nomination, and everyone that got a nomination but was not at the top of their MOCs slate.

....assuming you are 3 qualified, right? can someone who has a nomination but who has not yet been deemed to be 3 qualified get placed on the NWL?
 
You must be 3Q to considered for an appointment. Not 3Q + nom = no appointment regardless of anything else.
 
And, by law, the academy must choose the first 150 off the NWL by Whole Candidate Score, i.e merit. After those 150 are chosen, the academy can choose how they want to fill up the class, with, for example, underrepresented minorities, athletes, etc. Whatever they feel they "need" to "balance" the class.
 
1+ Kinnem.
For clarification read this thread as the NWL is discussed:
http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/odds-of-getting-in.45918/#post-453466

This is an excerpt from Christcorp from that thread:
"Approximately 500 appointments will come from the representative's and senator's SLATES of 10 names. There are also the 200 others he mentioned. But, there are also others too. Up to 100 more appointments come from Presidential Nomination and a number of others that are military related; e.g. ROTC. But after all of these are appointed; around 800-850, the remaining 350-400 will be from the NATIONAL POOL, which are all of the remaining individuals with nominations that haven't received an appointment. So you'll be competing with approximately 2000 for the remaining 350-400 slots. Best of luck."
 
Whoever the Academy wants the most will be the winner of the slate. The rest will go on the national waiting list.
Ok thank you -that is how I read and understood it to be and then was told differently by someone who went through process 5 years ago.
 
Whoever the Academy wants the most will be the winner of the slate. The rest will go on the national waiting list.

In most cases, but not automatic. The practice for a competitive nomination (I don't know this is a must or the Academy can make an exception), the candidate with the highest WCS wins the appointment. Sometimes, the candidate with the higher WCS is not the candidate the Academy wants at all or for the slate.
 
But both ways the rest of the slate gets put on national list- ?

Also, is it correct that if you are 3q you will not be offered a prep school option if QNS? I read in a thread prep is only for 2q?

Does admissions take a break now from doing this until after New Years or are they fully staffed even when the cadets are gone?

Thank you
 
Long time lurker - Still confused about National Pool?

I understand you need to be 3Q with a Nom to receive an appointment and I understand 3Q means that you are qualified academically, physically, and “MEDICALLY”. I have read that you have to be 3Q with a Nom to go into the National Pool of candidates.

So I’m wondering -what happens to candidates who are Medically DQ waiting for a waiver to be initiated from a SA? Are they not considered in the National Pool? If you have a waiver initiated but maybe a determination has not been reached as to Q or DQ are you considered in the National Pool?
Are DQ considered and would be given LOA until "Qualified" medical clearance is issued for an actual appointment?
 
Correct, not in the National Pool until a waiver is received. Not sure I understand the last question. You can be issued an LOA and yet be medically DQd if that is the question.
 
Correct, not in the National Pool until a waiver is received. Not sure I understand the last question. You can be issued an LOA and yet be medically DQd if that is the question.
Thanks @okboomer. So just to clarify I understand - a candidate who is currently DQ then has no chance to be considered for appointment in National Pool unless waiver has already been granted? And if waiver hasn’t been initiated by SA at this time probably very slim chance of appointment because the candidate will not be considered in national pool? I’m assuming candidate did not win slates (2 noms) but if slate were won waiver request would have been initiated by now?
 
Thanks @okboomer. So just to clarify I understand - a candidate who is currently DQ then has no chance to be considered for appointment in National Pool unless waiver has already been granted? And if waiver hasn’t been initiated by SA at this time probably very slim chance of appointment because the candidate will not be considered in national pool? I’m assuming candidate did not win slates (2 noms) but if slate were won waiver request would have been initiated by now?
Not sure if you applied USAFA, but I came across this on their webpage and thought it was interesting.
If you don’t receive an early notification, you will be considered in March if your records are complete and you meet all of our admissions requirements. If we don’t yet have your medical clearance or your preparatory school or college transcript, you will be considered for a conditional appointment. If you are selected, your final appointment will depend on your medical qualifications and our receiving a satisfactory college or preparatory school transcript.
 
Thanks @okboomer. So just to clarify I understand - a candidate who is currently DQ then has no chance to be considered for appointment in National Pool unless waiver has already been granted? And if waiver hasn’t been initiated by SA at this time probably very slim chance of appointment because the candidate will not be considered in national pool? I’m assuming candidate did not win slates (2 noms) but if slate were won waiver request would have been initiated by now?
I am unsure if the various SAs follow the same MO in this area. My guess would be similar but different. If mid-April is typically the tail end of the process, it seems we aren’t to the half-way point just yet so hang in there and keep moving forward with all additional options while maintaining hope for the SA. It’s not officially over until the TWE arrives.
 
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