National Waiting List

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  1. Jayhawk2325

    Jayhawk2325 Jayhawk2325

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    I just received a letter saying that I have been placed on the NWL and that most offers of appointment from the NWL would be filled by mid-May. Does anyone know when wait listed candidates actually begin to receive appointments? For example, would it be possible to receive an appointment in November if you ate on the NWL?
     
  2. debcst

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    I believe that the timing can vary widely, depending on movement at the nominating source.

    For example, if you have a ranked congressional nomination and are #2 on the the list, all it would take to be appointed would be for nominee #1 to decline the appointment- that could happen any time.

    However, given that you are on the NWL so early in the process I am thinking you have a service connected nomination. I'm not sure what would need to happen to bump you up-- I hope those more knowledgeable about these noms will chime in.

    Good luck!
     
  3. djjon22

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    it would be very interesting if you could tell me which nomination you have and how strong your file is.
     
  4. Jayhawk2325

    Jayhawk2325 Jayhawk2325

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    I have the nomination from Senator Roberts in Kansas with the interviews for the other sources coming up in the next two weeks, which is why I find it interesting that I've already been placed on the waiting list because I could still be nominated by my congressman and win the vacancy slot

    Just a brief overview:
    ACT Scores
    32 math
    33 reading
    34 English
    32 science
    32 writing

    CFA scores - my RC told my that my scores were very good.

    I attended SLS and boys state this summer

    I have one year of basketball and one year of tennis, no varsity letters but I will be receiving one in tennis this spring.

    I am section leader in my schools orchestra, school club president for 2 years, student council representative, newspaper reporter, etc
     
  5. djjon22

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    what about your schools grades?
     
  6. Jayhawk2325

    Jayhawk2325 Jayhawk2325

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    4.2 gpa
    Ranked about 25 out of 500
     
  7. djjon22

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    This is something. You have the grades for west point. However I think you might not have the "wild factor". Something that makes you stand out. One more piece and I'm sure you would have received an appointment.
     
  8. Jayhawk2325

    Jayhawk2325 Jayhawk2325

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    I guess I don't really understand the national waiting list entirely. Could somebody explain to me how one gets put on it, how you get an appointment from the NWL, and when etc?
     
  9. kbaek

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    If you received a nomination but were either 1) NOT the Congressman's primary nominee OR 2) NOT chosen by WP's admissions committee to be the primary nominee if the Congressmen decides to put in a competitive slate.

    Basically, if you were received a nomination but were not the top pick out of the slate, then you are put on the NWL.

    From there, the admissions committee will choose various target groups to fill in the class. This includes, but may not be limited to, minorities, scholars, athletes, females, soldiers, etc.

    An important tool the committee will use is the Whole Candidate Score. Through the use of a secret formula, they use the WCS to rank the candidates.

    What we do know, however, is that they weigh academics (class rank, standardized test scores, GPA, class rank, etc.), leadership ability (school/extracurricular activities/positions, sports, etc.), and physical fitness ability (CFA scores) differently. It is respectively weighed 60%, 30%, and 10%.

    The whole NWL concept was kind of tricky to me when I first started. A somewhat general guideline of getting onto the NWL looks like this: If you have a nomination (check your candidate portal, it will tell you), are qualified medically, academically, and physically, and have not received a letter of acceptance within a couple weeks, then you can expect to be placed on the NWL.
     
  10. buff81

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    Jayhawk2325-
    You are now on the NWL because you were not the vacancy winner for your Senator. #1 (vacancy winner) on that Senator's slate gets the appointment if fully qualified. The rest (#2-#10) go on the NWL.

    Since your other MOCs have not turned in a slate yet, you still have a chance at a nom from them and being #1 on their slates. If you are one of the other MOC's vacancy winner, then since you are fully qualified, you would receive an offer of appointment. Your name would then be removed from the NWL.

    If with the other MOCs, you receive a nom but are not the vacancy winner - you remain on the NWL.

    One possible way to come off the NWL early is if #1 declines the appointment or is not fully qualified. If you are #2, then you move to the #1 spot and will be offered the appointment.

    Once all the MOC noms come in (Jan 31), then WP can then determine who gets the MOCs slots and then can move on to appoint those off the NWL. Last year - 50% of all offers made were in Jan, Feb and March. The reason the letter said mid-May is because candidates have until May 1 to accept/decline. After May 1, WP can then fill the class if there are still holes left to be filled.

    All candidates on the NWL are ranked top to bottom by WCS.
     
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  11. Marist College ROTC

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    If you are on the NWL, make sure you apply for ROTC Scholarship as a Plan B or C. If your primary goal is to serve your country and you are not set on a specific job, apply for NROTC, AFROTC, and AROTC.
     
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    Should I send any test score updates to my senator's committee even after I had the interview?
     

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