Navy ROTC Commissioning Route

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  1. Packer

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    In AFROTC one of the big hurdles is to get SFT. Without it one won't commission. Are there similiar requirements in NROTC or does one just have to maintain stated minimum standards. Just curious.
     
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    First Class Cruise
    https://www.nrotc.navy.mil/summer_cruise.aspx


    During the Summer
    NROTC students who are on scholarship participate in a summer cruise in the fleet, to get hands-on training with real Navy personnel and equipment. After their freshman year, Midshipmen (both Navy and Marine) either travel to San Diego or Norfolk for CORTRAMID (Career Orientation and Training of Midshipmen). The Midshipmen spend a week in each of the three primary Unrestricted Line communities (Surface, Submarine, and Aviation) as well as a week with the Marine Corps to help them decide which community to join when commissioned.

    In the next two summers, Navy Option scholarship midshipmen spend time with either a surface ship, submarine, or aviation squadron. Aviation cruises are only available to Midshipmen for their First Class Cruise. For each summer cruise, they select which warfare community they would prefer to train with and are given the opportunity to train around the world. The summer cruise in between the sophomore and junior years is referred to as the second-class cruise. They are assigned an enlisted running mate, from whom they acquire a sense of the enlisted experience. The summer cruise in between the junior and senior years of college (known as the First Class Cruise) is required for commissioning, and it focuses on integrating the midshipman into the officer community. Specialty cruises include EOD cruises, SEAL cruises, FOREX cruises (midshipmen are attached to a foreign country's ship), and Navy Nurse Cruises.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Reserve_Officer_Training_Corps
     
  3. Pima

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    In other words, it is the same as AFROTC, no summer cruise = no POC. No POC = no commissioning
     
  4. Packer

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    Is it similiarly competitive to be selected for summer cruise? I would assume so but there is that word.
     
  5. Pima

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    Best advice is to ask the % that get SFT for AFROTC and the % that gets Cruises for NROTC.
     
  6. gojack

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    No mention of competition for getting a summer cruise in college handbooks,
    just GPA, PT score etc...

    Appears to me Navy ROTC has an ongoing review process, if you are found deficient, you go before a board, after which you either correct your error(s) or you are out. (serious errors, repeat errors you are just out)

    Midterm Counseling

    www.virginia.edu/nrotc/resources/guidebook/guidebook.pdf

    nrotc.osu.edu/WELCOME%20ABOARD%20PACKAGE%20fall09.pdf


    http://www.bu.edu/navyrotc/prospective-students/summer-cruise/
     
  7. Fengawr

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    Excuse me from budging in, but what about the requirements for AROTC? Is there something like the first class cruise that NROTC students have to do? AROTC is my first choice for a ROTC scholarship so I am just curious..
     
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    just to confirm the NROTC summers - above is correct I would add that as far as I can see, every scholarship Navy cadet does the summer program - my son has finished his sophmore year, so this would be the 2nd class summer cruise - the marine option guys are going this year, to some marine training 11 days long, the navy guys would go as stated above, but this is the summer and the only summer that a MIDN can apply for waiver to omit partiipating - my son went that route because for the first time VMI - Mech Eng dept is offering a summer abroad month - I believe 6 credits earned, several subjects covered including the required cultural credit for scholarship - my son is doing this - his LT advisor told him early of the year that this would be great for him to do, that next year every MIDN MUST attend the 1st class cruise - so this was only summer to waive to get courses (he said usually MIDn must ask for waiver to do catch up academics, but he was all for my son doing this summer abroad - Germany) His waiver was approved, currently all summer slots are full, but LT said yesterday IF one opens up after return from Germany he might get one. LT put much more weight on participating in this summer abroad - so as far as VMI's NROTC unit goes- every scholarship MIDN does summer cruise each of the 3 summers. larrys mom
     
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    It is important to realize that even if you get the summer cruise, it is not time to celebrate.

    Your rack and stack will parlay into your next board, which most likely will be your career field.

    Score bottom 50% and it will hurt you on the OML.

    ROTC is like the AD world, everything will be the building block for your next goal. You can rejoice in getting it, but make sure you never take it for granted regarding your future success. Go and bust, you will feel the pain with regards to your career.

    Even when you come back, you will start the vying all over again. It never ends until you stand in front of your family and friends at your retirement ceremony.

    This is the marathon of your life. First out of the gate, doesn't equate to the most successful. Success occurs when you understand that every job/position/AD school/training impacts the amount of doors that will open or close based on your abilities.

    I use Colin Powell as an example very often, but if you really know his path, you can easily see how he obtained the success he did in the military. He never rested on his laurels because he got XYZ, he parlayed that to get ABC. He understood, celebrate, but push forward to the next goal.

    Great officers always plan 2 steps ahead. In other words, they will say I need SFT/LDAC/Cruise and GRADUATE top of the class, this will allow me to compete for my ultimate career field. Once they receive the career field, they move on and say I need to now compete for a certain school so I can be promoted. So on and so forth.
     
  11. singaporemom

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    LDAC is required (between junior and senior year) and it's always a good idea to talk to PMS at prospective schools about the LDAC experience. What preparation does the school take to get the cadets ready. how successful are their cadets at LDAC. How successful are their cadets at commissioning/branch choice/etc etc etc. This will give you a good idea of the atmosphere of the unit. My DS was also able to take advantage of the SLCP, Strategic Language and Culture Program...2 summers of intense language instruction at Indiana University. Excellent opportunity if you that interests you.

    I haven't heard of any AROTC cadet in good standing who didnt go to LDAC.

    My DS is heading to LDAC this summer and has had 2 weeks of May training to dot the i's and cross the t's, get their head in the game, so to speak. But the 3 years getting to this point has also been very important. Numerous regularly scheduled counseling sessions to make sure he is on track academically, fitness regime, FTX. Great leaders will produce great leaders.
     

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