New Cadet Conduct after Accepting Appointment

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  1. Oldgrump

    Oldgrump New Member

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    Is there a specific code of conduct expected between the acceptance of the appointment and report date? I would hate to see anyone do something silly and have a lot of explining to do. Thanks in advance for any advice.
     
  2. BOK

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    Troll
     
  3. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

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    Pretty harsh statement for someone's first post. If you have further information on why you think this may be the case then I suggest you contact the moderator of this subforum.

    Otherwise I would be very cautious on calling someone a troll right out of the gate.
     
  4. Stouticus

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    Best advice I can give anyone who is in this stage is to be smart about your decisions. Don't get into trouble with the law, party excessively, ect. Just use your common sense when it comes to things between now and A-Day. Also, understand that you need some time to relax before coming since the pace at any of the acadmies is very fast. Remember, you now represent a future officer in the making, the academy, and your family. That comes with a big responsibility on its own. Begin making the decisions that will define you in years to come. You've got to understand, once you put on the uniform, you never truely take it off.
     
  5. linkgmr

    linkgmr Old Grad

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    Don't be an idiot, and if you can't refrain from being an idiot, don't get caught. Make sense?
     
  6. Chockstock

    Chockstock "Forever One Team"

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    Wow, solid advice!
     
  7. linkgmr

    linkgmr Old Grad

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    Hey, as I always say:

    "If you can't be good, look good. If you can't look good, hide."

    And if you can't hide, well, then you're SOL.
     
  8. America's Finest

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    How about "if you can't refrain from being an idiot then seek a career field were lives won't depend on your decisions."?
     
  9. linkgmr

    linkgmr Old Grad

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    Oh don't be like that. You can't honestly expect him to spend his last few months of civilian life playing bridge and watching Sesame Street.
     
  10. scoutpilot

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    If only there was some middle ground between playing bridge or being an idiot......:rolleyes:
     
  11. sprog

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    Parcheesi?
     
  12. BOK

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    When I read the original post...I knew where this would end up.
     
  13. GMRobertson

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    Your appointment is your most valuable asset - protect it

    Every year there are those who are admitted suffer a major tragedy and have their admissions revoked.

    By accepting, you ahve already committed yourself to a different life and different standards than your friends now in high school.

    The vast majority of seniors are now coasting with little that they do putting at risk their acceptance to the college they will attend late summer. It is an opportunity to regroup and also to celebrate. The vast majority will drink and party.

    You cannot. You cannot risk gaming it. If you are charged with a drinking violation you must report it to admissions and likely you will have your admission revoked.
     
  14. linkgmr

    linkgmr Old Grad

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    I respectfully disagree. IMHO, the whole military lifestyle and the standards that it entails begin on R-Day. You're not going to get a real opportunity to cut loose for quite a few years, and you owe it to yourself to enjoy it, so long as you take a couple precautions and don't do anything horrendously illegal or conspicuous.

    I'm going to address the elephant in the room here and clarify my point, because I think I may have given people the wrong impression about what I'm trying to say : If you're going to drink, do it with people you know in a private setting, and don't go out into public. Weigh the probability of failure and success, and allow yourself to take a risk every once in a while when its worth it. It's an incredibly useful skill to have, and it will serve you well.
     
  15. AKH

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    I respectfully disagree with your disagreement. So deciding when to take an illegal risk is going to be useful in the Army? Breaking the law is worth it for a few hours of fun? If you're going to be whatever person you want and "cut loose" until R-Day and not impose any standards or models of behavior on yourself before then, I think one would have trouble adjusting to having such things imposed on them very suddenly. Obviously I'm not even a New Cadet yet so maybe my opinion doesn't matter but I think your viewpoint is skewed.

    A parallel discussion is going on in the "Pardon my paranoia" thread and I think buff's point sums it all up:

     
  16. buff81

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    And I respectfully disagree.
    Unless you are 21, drinking is illegal.
    Not displaying a lot of leadership or character by breaking the law.
    The message that I get from your post is that it's OK to do something illegal- as long as it's in private?
     
  17. d.mcknight

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    In private or not, drinking underage is illegal. One of the most important concepts I've gathered from being around those who are/were in the military is integrity. And integrity is doing the right thing even when nobody is around. There are plenty of things you can do for fun without breaking the law whatsoever.
     
  18. mom3boys

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    That being said, there are many travel opportunities for cadets to countries w/ lower drinking ages :thumb: As a mom of two who are now "legal," I was kind of glad to see them turn 21...just takes one more possible problem out of the equation. It would be nice to think that our kids would not drink until they are 21...but that is usually not a reality. I'd also like to think they'd wait to have sex until they are married...:shake:
     
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    Disclaimer: I'm not trying to start a debate, and if I am wrong, please correct me because I don't want to be a source of wrong information.

    I personally do not drink: never have, never will. My understanding was, though, that in multiple states, underage drinking is allowed within private residences with parental consent (see website for list)

    http://drinkingage.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=002591

    Is this true, or is it one of those sticky areas where state law conflicts with federal law? Thank you in advance!
     
  20. scoutpilot

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    There is no federal drinking age law. The Federal Underage Drinking Act (FUDA) limits highway funding to states which do not maintain a MLDA of 21+. The federal government does not set a drinking age in the criminal code. They merely pressure the states into complying.
     

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