New LTs will be less respected?

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  1. g041rf0rc3

    g041rf0rc3 Member

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    I think that enlisted personnel(no offense) (specially NCOs)don't deal with young leadership.
    Anyway ... they have to follow orders(#insubordination), but they disagree with these orders ?
     
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    hornetguy USAFA Cadet

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    This is only true under a "leadership means mindless lockstep hierarchy" model. Young O-1s are responsible for issuing orders, sure, and NCOs are responsible for making sure they're carried out. But good NCOs "lead" young officers by example and suggestions, and good O-1s know that nothing gets done unless the NCOs make it happen with junior personnel. They consult with their NCOs, they observe their platoons and working units, they all learn from one another.
     
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  4. g041rf0rc3

    g041rf0rc3 Member

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    Your mom?
     
  5. Jcc123

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    Your English teacher?
     
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  6. -Bull-

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    You've been told wrong.

    Source: I am a young LT.
     
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    hornet +1
     
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  8. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    Oh the your mom line... Classic....


    Or something like that...
     
  9. NavyHoops

    NavyHoops Moderator

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    I don't even know what the OP's point, comment, questions, statement is?

    Look young Lts have a lot to learn. If they keep their ears and eyes open, learn and take care of their people they will do fine. With that being said, a good NCO and SNCO will teach a young a Lt, never question them in front of their troops and play a mentorship role them. But also, a Lt has to lead. I have seen great 2ndLts lead amazing combat missions and their Marines never question them. In fact a good Lt will be fiercely protected and followed by their Marines.
     
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  10. Boozebin

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    I think someone got a hold of his account. While I don't always agree with some of the things they post this is not his style of writing or his nature. I'm up for giving the benefit of the doubt.

    If I'm wrong this one will learn a lot once they enter the academies or the active duty world and I have a feeling those lessons will be hard learned ones.
     
  11. Sledge

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    Well, the "wat" lady meme was introduced to SAF. So, it was a good thread.

    [​IMG]
     
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  12. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    If you go back through past posts, they're aren't far off.... Poor grammar, errors, random unrelated questions and "wtf".
     
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  13. Boozebin

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    Ok I did go back and read some again and you might be right LITS. g04irf0rc3 as an old enlisted guy myself I'm trying really hard not to have an emotional response to what you said. With that being said here is my attempt to help you.

    Are there good and bad enlisted? Yup. Are there good and bad Officers? Yup. Are there good and bad examples of leadership in the military? Count on it. It is your job to learn from all those examples and become a better leader and make the place where you're at better than it was when you got there.
     
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  14. FalconsRock

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    Are there posters who just don't make a lot of sense? Yup!o_O
     
  15. Boozebin

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    I resemble that remark!:eek:
     
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  16. AF6872

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    OP should try an English Writing Class and use of a thesaurus and a dictionary. As a former low level NCO I never questioned the orders of any LT who we dealt with every day. Found that most of them were scared to death of senior NCO's and always looked to them for guidance.
     
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  17. fencersmother

    fencersmother Founding Member

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    Our OP should quit reading internet trash and start reading ENGLISH.
     
  18. g041rf0rc3

    g041rf0rc3 Member

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    I didn't knew this forum was about grammar
     
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  19. Idzak

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    gO41rfOrc3, In the Off Topic section of this forum grammar, spelling, typing errors, and logical faults are fair game. Also extra redundancy.
     
  20. EDelahanty

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    Spelingness is next to grammarness.
     
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