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Discussion in 'ROTC' started by Mattsmom2015, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. Mattsmom2015

    Mattsmom2015 Member

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    Is there a listing somewhere to explain all the lingo?

    Our son is going into AFROTC in the fall and we don't know what the terms are.

    For example:
    AS100's, 200's, etc.
    PDT

    Thanks for any help!
     
  2. FloridaDad

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  3. Mattsmom2015

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    The things we are questioning are not on that list. Is there anything else?
     
  4. kevster

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    100 - Freshman in ROTC (also called IMTs..... Introduction to Military Training)
    200 - Sophomore in ROTC also called FTP (Field Training Prep ....these cadets were all enrolled as an IMT)
    250 - Sophomore in ROTC who was not enrolled as an IMT. ( they train with the 200's but attend Air Science classes with both 200s and 100s)
    500 - Sophomore in ROTC who is on a 5 year track or was not given an EA the previous year. Either way a 500 will have 3 been in college for 3 years.

    PDT - Professional Development Training. This essentially entails shadowing an officer for a few weeks and experiencing life on base.

    If you dont see the terms on the list feel free to ask and we will be more than happy to help! :thumb:
     
  5. Mattsmom2015

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    Ok, thank you that helps!
     
  6. Hashiriya

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    tell him to take a light class load on Spring semester of AS200 or he will regret it! He might as well start memorizing the Drill & Ceremonies book right now too. Best advice I could give someone who wants to do AFROTC.
     
  7. Briar

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    My son is a 200 and is attending field training this summer. I also had alot of questions. You can pm any questions or post it. I'm sure he can answer any questions you may have.
     
  8. Pima

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    I am not sure I agree with the light load spring 200. Our DS took 19 credits and interned on the Hill, while also being in AAS, and having a det job. He got a 3.4+ gpa for that semester and graduated from SFT at the top of the pack. He didn't study drills and ceremonies, or at least I never saw him do it over the summer; he was Max 6 (July 31st report date).

    Cadets do not know if they are going to SFT until about a month before classes end.

    If I was to advise when to tak a lighter load it would be fall 300 because that is your last PFT, last semester grades, last Command review and 1st POC position before you go up for your AFSC. (career field). Also if you want rated you need to take the TBAS (test only given to those wanting rated...more difficult than the AFOQT given soph yr). That is a test you want to study for since with that and the AFOQT you will get assigned points for the scores and those points matter.

    There really isn't much you will do in the spring except train for SFT, which they actually start doing in the fall of your 200 yr. If you are a strong cadet in your det, you will be a strong cadet at training.

    JMPO from a Mom who has a cadet that been there, done that, he is a 300 now with his AFSC.

    OBTW I would recommend as a rising 200, that you spend the summer studying the AFOQT because again that score is going to follow you for 2 boards. For most cadets they find the test simple, it is sim. to the SAT, but with some aviation material in it. However, like the PFT, every single point matters when you come to any board, and you don't want to be saying to yourself if only I got a 92 instead of an 88 on my AFOQT or if I got a 97 on my PFT instead of a 95 I would have gotten it. Every point matters.

    Honestly, also since the commander will have a voice in those boards, they submit recs and rankings, he will most likely look at those scores when determining where you rack and stack compared to other cadets. Hard to rack you higher if you have lower scores.
     
  9. Bluebird

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    New here, our DS is in AFROTC, rising sophomore. Do you have a recommendation on a book to study for the AFOQT? He remembers being told that the Det had changed when the test is given, is it now given the junior year?
     
  10. Pima

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    It use to be given to freshman, I believe now it is sophomore. I can't see it being jr., because they give the TBAS to jrs.

    I don't know of any book per se, because the AF likes to covet those questions, in the military if the test is out there it is called "dirty purples" --- goes back to the day of stenographs when they would run the test and eventually the ink would look purple.

    Cadets are told flat out that it is against regs to discuss what is on the test, particulary questions with anyone who has yet to take it.

    They can direct in generalities, but not the specific questions. From what I know between DH who took it 20 some odd yrs ago, and DS now, the test hasn't changed much.

    Just from overhearing them, I would think the AFOQT is more like the ACT and less like the SAT...mainly because it has scientific portion.

    Our DS did not study at all, and he scored in the strong 90's overall. I will also say, even though he is non-tech, math and science are his strong suit, he just finds it boring.

    If your child scored in the 700+ M SAT or 33+ M/S ACT they should be just fine.

    My advice would be, if they want to fly, and you can afford it to use this summer as a rising 200 to give them private flight hours.

    A. It will help them with the AFOQT from that scientific perspective (it is more math/science, not biology or chemistry)

    B. If they want to fly they will take the TBAS. They get extra points added to their score depending on how many flight hours they have logged. They bring their log book for verification. This is not like AFOQT where they all take it one Sat. Only 1 cadet at a time can take it, and it is not administered, at least for our DS it wasn't, at the school. They go to an assigned AFB at an assigned time.

    C. The reason for this summer is that hopefully as a 200 they will get SFT. If they do, they don't select when to go, it is assigned, that means it could be more difficult for them next summer.

    AFROTC is not unlike AD AF. You need to take a 3 prong approach to your career simultaneously. Current, short and long term. You need to plot the long term while you live through the short term. You can't plot one without paying attention to the other.

    For ex: Long term goal rated. Short term goal SFT. Current: AFOQT and det job.

    You need the good AFOQT to get SFT. You need SFT to get the long term. Meanwhile, you also need to do good in school and in the det.

    You can get a great AFOQT score, but no job and low gpa will not help you to get SFT. Don't get SFT and you may be out, thus long term goal is shot.

    Long term goal keeps you motivated IMPO. It is the carrot on the stick. If you know you need SFT and that AFOQT. plus rank and gpa matters, you will be motivated to do your best. However, it is that short term goal you need to look at to get to the long term.

    In other words everything is tied together like a foundation of the house you build. Stronger foundation, stronger the house.

    Also, beware any company that is selling any product for the AFOQT. Many are companies hawking products that aren't worth the paper it is written on.

    Spending a couple hundred on those books, isn't worth it IMPO compared to spending a couple hundred on flight school hours. One is paper where you teach yourself. One has an instructor and allows them absorb the info better, plus, it lets them decide if this is a fit for them. It isn't this imaginary thought of flying and how much you will love it. It is reality.

    We made a deal with our DS when he was in HS. We paid 1 hr per month, if he wanted more it was out of his pocket, also his birthday, and xmas gift from us and family were flight hours. In the end he flew every weekend, sometimes 2X a weekend because he spent every penny he earned on flight school...he was bitten by the bug.

    It was a win win. The enjoyment he got from flying made him that more committed to his long term goal. It also helped him for the AFOQT and TBAS, probably also helped him in his ROTC classes too. It also motivated him to get great grades because he understood the way the system worked.

    Again, the current goal impacted the short and long term

    Sorry for the novella, but as I have always stated things move fast once you are in ROTC and as a 200 and 300 life is about boards for your career. There will be one more as a 400 when it comes to your Report date, but that ties back to the current goal of gpa. It is an Order of Merit List and commissioning date.
     

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