Newbie DODMERB question/color blindness

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  1. kmomto9

    kmomto9 Member

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    My son is 16 and has dreamt of flying for the USAFA since he was a little boy. He is doing everything 'right' to achieve his goal of an appt. Great student, dual credit classes, community service, CAP C/Capt working towards that Spaatz, staffed 3 encampments, COS, CTEP instructor.....every single thing this child does is with an eye on those service academy apps and has been for years.
    he went to PFA this summer and when he had his FAA physical we found out that he is green deficient. We never had any idea because in real life color differentiation has never been a problem. He can get maybe 2 PIP plates. We took him to an opthamologist for in-depth testing...everything under the sun BUT the FALANT. He passed one test. I think it was the D-15 but failed everything else including the anomaloscope. We know his chances of flying anything in the military are now very slim but is there any hope? Any pilot training available in any service for someone who can pass the FALANT? We are fairly sure he can pass that. He'll be taking the FAA signal light test sometime soon too. I was also wondering what the order of appointment/acceptance and DODMERB exam is? If he gets in to say the USAFA and the USMA does he have to pick one before he goes before the DODMERB or after? Flying is his first love but he understands that due to this vision issue it may be out of his reach and he has pretty much accepted that but he wants to exhaust every possibility before he gives up on it. He wants the AF but if his only option is to fly *anything* for another service, he is open to that. If he can't fly for anyone than he'd rather serve in the USAF in another capacity. He also likes meteorology and wouldn't mind doing that in the service instead but I read somewhere that his color vision would even keep him out of that. Information on the net is conflicting and even talking to active duty personnel I am not getting a clear picture of his options. We live in San Antonio but don't really have access to Brooks until he goes for his DODMERB should he get an appointment.
    Thanks for any help or clarification you can give us.

    Karen
     
  2. AFAYahoo

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    I can't help you with any information about color vision and being DQ'd, but if your son is going to apply for either the USAFA or USMA, he will do his DoDMERB exam probably during the summer before or the fall of his senior year of high school once he starts the application process--they don't wait until an appointment is offered. He will not have to pick USAFA or USMA before his DoDMERB exams are completed. If he is DQ'd, there will be an opportunity to send in doctor reports, test results, etc. that each service academy can review (and they may request tests etc. too) and make a decision to either waiver or not. Waiver decisions are made only by the service academy, not by DoDMERB itself. Its possible to get a waiver from one SA and not another.

    Although I don't think they will give you an answer right now (every case is different, he's not officially a candidate yet, etc.) here is a number/e-mail for the DoDMERB help desk:

    call 1-800-841-2706 from 7AM-4 PM, Mountain Time, Mon - Fri
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    you may email "helpdesk@dodmerb.tma.osd.mil" and receive responses during the same hours.

    Good luck.
     
  3. kmomto9

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    Thank you!! That really clears some things up for me. I've gotten one child into university but the SA and ROTC process is infinitely more complicated and a whole lot less forgiving.
     
  4. Pima

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    According to Flieger, the talk is this yr for the AFA exams will now be given once the applicant becomes a qualified candidate, in other words, once you have a nom.

    The problem for some will be they may not get their nom until late fall. I know for our DS his noms did not come through until DEC. (due date for nom paperwork was 10/15) That would place the exam @Jan., results a few weeks later. It will be very important to have that paperwork ready for the DQ process.

    If he is awarded a scholarship for ROTC prior to that, some start going out in Oct. He will than take the exam. AFA will accept the ROTC DodMERB exam, thus, you can be ahead of the curve re:SAs. Just another reason why to get that ROTC paperwork in early.

    Good luck
     
  5. Mongo

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    The FALANT is the final authority for the Navy. For DoDMERB, when he fails his PIP test, he will be automatically scheduled for a FALANT followup. If he passes it with flying colors, so to speak, he will be fully qualified.
     
  6. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

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    For Navy Marine Corps: Pass FALANT and you can fly (now there are a little more stringent than normal FALANT requirements than usual)

    Here are the Navy requirements for aviation:
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    Color Vision: Must pass any one of the following two tests:
    (1) FALANT or Optec 900: 9/9 correct on the first trial or, if any are missed, at least 16.18 correct on the combined second and third trials.
    (2) PIP color plates (Any red-green screening test with at least 14 diagnostic plates; see manufacturer instructions for scoring information), randomly administered under Macbeth lamp: scoring plates 2-15, at least 12/14 correct.
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