NO AFROTC ICSP or 2014 Field Training???

Do ALL cadets competing for EA have to sign the form or is it just the Non-techs? (My DS has PFA tomorrow AM it's almost midnight in Florida too late to ask him)
 
From what I could see all FTP (Tech and Non-Tech) were given the form at LAB
 
It would not surprise me if every cadet was given this paper because it will allow the AF to predict how many slots that will be requested next year for rated.
 
DS said all cadets will be given the form, though it may be only give non-tech cadets a greater chance and really not have that much "weight" for tech/nurse/foreign language. I'll ask him for more details when he signs it next week.
 
Yep, all cadets competing are having to sign the form. Five boards for EA's this year; tech, rated, nurse, language, and non tech.
 
This is a hypothetical question:

Could my DS (tech) have his first choice be civil engineering (non-rated) and his second choice be Pilot (rated)? Or does your rated choice have to be your first choice?
 
ERAUMattmom said:
This is a hypothetical question:

Could my DS (tech) have his first choice be civil engineering (non-rated) and his second choice be Pilot (rated)? Or does your rated choice have to be your first choice?
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Rated boards meet long before you even apply for a non rated job.
 
ERAUMattmom said:
This is a hypothetical question:

Could my DS (tech) have his first choice be civil engineering (non-rated) and his second choice be Pilot (rated)? Or does your rated choice have to be your first choice?
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We had to sign a memo stating we were either competing for a rated spot or a non-rated spot. There wasn't any first/second choice or anything.
 
From what I understand, cadets that go up for tech/foreign language/non-rated EA boards can still go up for the rated board their Junior year. Difference is if they don't get their #1 pick or are medically qualified, they can re-classify to a non-rated AFSC their senior year, whereas those cadets that get a rated EA are forced to go up for the rated board their junior year and they are stuck with their rated position, so they can't re-classify to a non-rated AFSC.

Not sure how it would work if they got a rated EA but were not medically qualified for any rated AFSC's. I'm assuming the AF is making sure they're medically qualified for at least ONE rated AFSC before letting them volunteer to compete for a rated EA.
 
That's what I understood from talking to my DS. If you select non rated than you will compete in the category your qualified for. If you select rated and get an EA slot from that board, you will be expected to go rated.
 
Please help me test my understanding...
(hypothetically)
A cadet could go to field training with a tech EA slot (ex: civil engineer), complete Field training and come out of Field Training lets say ranked top 10% and decide they would prefer to fly rather than work on roads and are then able go up for rated boards their Jr year......
but are then NOT obligated to take the rated job if offered and have the option to go back to being a civil engineer....

But if a cadet gets a rated EA slot for field training..then he/she is bound to go rated

Or am I not understanding this correctly

IS Field Training different for those going rated as compared to tech/non rated?
 
undflyboy said:
Not sure how it would work if they got a rated EA but were not medically qualified for any rated AFSC's. I'm assuming the AF is making sure they're medically qualified for at least ONE rated AFSC before letting them volunteer to compete for a rated EA.
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My DS is a 400 and got a rated slot for pilot a year ago. He went to Wright Pat for the 3 day Class I physical May 2014 and after a variety of test was DQ for all rated jobs with a color vision deficiency. We had no idea that he had this "problem". There is no way for the AF to make sure they are qualified for rated AFSC unless they send them to Wright Pat for a class I.

btw: he was reclassed intel.
 
ERAUMattmom said:
IS Field Training different for those going rated as compared to tech/non rated?
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No, field training is not different for those going rated as compared to tech/non rated. The difference is how many of each tech, rated, nurse, language, and non tech officers the AF needs/wants to commission in 2 years. The cadets will be competing against other cadets with the same career (in the above categories) aspirations. For example if the AF expects to need 20 Mandarin speakers to commission from AFROTC in 2 years and they have 30 Sophomore Mandarin speaking candidates for FT, they will select from those cadets that have indicated that they want to compete on the foreign language list. FWIW - the AF has been using this method to select nurses for FT for a few years now.
 
ERAU,

This is what one of my friend's DS that got rated (CSO-wabtee pilot) told me. He was told that if he was FC1 qualified, but decided he'd rather go back to non-rated, it basically would not happen.
1. The results from the FC1 typically come down in Aug. You may get a clue while you are there with the out processing flight doc, but that is not the final which is an FAA all clear.
~~~~ That means if after the FC1 physical, and when they report back the CoC has to do paperwork to reclassify him, and I think everyone knows the adage...hurry up and wait, the AF is not supersonic when it comes to paperwork, yet that board will still meet.
2. They don't allow it because they are concerned that this is a way of gaming the system. IOWs, 2 years later once they are ADAF they apply again, this time hoping that they will get UPT. There is an age limit, but they are years from hitting it.
~~~ This would mean that although they thought they had enough non-rated, they could have more leaving than planned. It also changes the salt/supplemental rated board in ROTC. IOWS it makes things messy from a long term personnel planning perspective.
 
DS called tonight and said that all the cadets competing for an EA this year at his Det had to sign a memo at LLab today indicating if they are going rated or not. DS said that all non tech cadets except two at his Det indicated that they were going rated. DS said that cadre advised that EA packages were complete except for the final PFT score. They were suppose to of had it yesterday, but due to bad weather it was postponed until next week. Any one else hearing anything on EA's and the rated twist?
 
FlyingWildcatDad said:
DS called tonight and said that all the cadets competing for an EA this year at his Det had to sign a memo at LLab today indicating if they are going rated or not. DS said that all non tech cadets except two at his Det indicated that they were going rated. DS said that cadre advised that EA packages were complete except for the final PFT score. They were suppose to of had it yesterday, but due to bad weather it was postponed until next week. Any one else hearing anything on EA's and the rated twist?
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Confirm that my detachment required all non-techs to tell the commander that they are going rated within a day! We didn't need to sign a memo though just needed to say it in person or by email.
 
All cadets at my DS's detachment received the form on Thursday and had to submit it on Friday. He told me that he believes (can't say with 100% certainty) that all non-tech are going rated.
 
I know this forum is anecdotal info at best, but it appears that AFROTC may now have an issue come a year from now because the rated board might be bigger than previous years. If even 75% of non-techs go rated and previous years had only 50% that could be several hundred more to review.
 
We were given the same form at our detachment, saying that if we "volunteered" for rated our chances of Enrollment Allocation selection would increase (you could see a bunch of cadets erase and switch to volunteer). But then were subsequently told that if we "withdraw rated volunteer status prior to or during my eligible rated categorization board, we understand we may be investigated for disenrollment" (you then see a bunch of cadets switch back). 100% of cadets did not go rated but I would bet it was pretty close. Our CC told us that we should be cautious because will rates much like they were two years ago with 55% selection.
 
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